Concerned about Syrian refugees entering Canada? You should read this.

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17Nov

Last Friday, we all watched in terror as hundreds of innocent people enjoying a beautiful start to the weekend in one of the most celebrated cities in the world were gunned down in a terrorist massacre. The normalcy of a Friday night came to a horrific halt in a hail of bullets and bloodshed and I spent the next few hours glued to my Twitter account, as I watched it all unfold in real time.

There is something surreal about the way social media and technology can immerse us into every miniscule detail as it emerges, every false rumour, every inspirational or hateful utterance; every heartbreaking image that shakes us to our core. I was far away from it all, yet I was there. I read the devastated messages of people frantically searching for their loved ones and I sobbed for them and for my inability to do anything at all but merely retweet.

In my lifetime I have seen planes fly into New York skyscrapers and watched them crumble to the ground, the way bodies buckle under their own weight. I have watched incredulously as a tall, beautiful soldier in his prime was gunned down while peacefully guarding a monument in Ottawa. I have refused to watch as Daniel Pearl would be the first of many ISIS victims – throat slit, terror reverberating around the world, establishing a new “normal”.

There is something so visceral about horror and fear. It causes us to fold in half, to circle the wagons, to batten down the hatches and seek to eliminate all real and potential threats. Suspicion and survival take over. Our hearts grow small. There is no room for compassion when you have been struck in such a cowardly way and you don’t know where the next blow is coming from. When young men and women are gunned down for no reason at all, logic, too, tends to walk away. Vicious thoughts of revenge and destruction take over. You want to retaliate, to strike back; to keep this from happening to you and your loved ones.

Police immediately started investigating to find out who the terrorists were. ISIS quickly claimed responsibility. A lone Syrian passport was found near the body of one of the men who had detonated himself.

I knew immediately what was coming next.

Within hours, pundits were urging politicians to close the doors to Syrian refugees. Within days, a Peterborough mosque had been vandalized with Molotov cocktails, a Muslim woman trying to pick up her kids in Toronto was viciously attacked as two men yelled: “You terrorist, you don’t belong here. You piece of Sh*!@, go back home”, and a Muslim woman was pushed into an oncoming train in London (miraculously she survived). It would appear that nothing vindicates and avenges the cowardly acts of terrorists against innocent people like more cowardly acts against more innocent people…

Within days, a number of U.S. governors had joined in a cacophonous choir, informing President Obama that their states would not be letting in Syrian refugees, slated to soon be arriving. Never mind that the U.S. Constitution stipulates that it’s not up to them to decide that, they decided to pander to voters’ fears and appear “tough on crime” on the backs of innocent refugees who are now being re-victimized, scapegoated, and demonized for absolutely no reason at all.

“But what if there are terrorists hiding among Syrian refugees?” has been the question on the lips of far too many people these past few days. For the sake of maintaining my sanity and focusing on those minds I can – perhaps – change, I will refrain from focusing on the vile and ignorant Islamophobia masquerading as a legitimate security concern that I’ve seen blow up on my social media feed. Those people are hopeless and I no longer want to spend any time educating them because their bigotry and prejudice overrides any factual information. They will believe what they will believe and nothing anyone tells them will change their minds.

For the rest of you, the ones legitimately concerned about a possible infiltration of terrorists entering our countries disguised as Syrian refugees, here are a few points that you desperately need to read. I think it will go a long way towards easing your fears:

  • TERRORISTS ARE INFILTRATING EUROPE BY POSING AS REFUGEES

Not true. All Paris attackers identified so far are European nationals, according to top EU officials. While some people are frantically calling for us to close our doors, because they fear terrorists are infiltrating Europe by posing as refugees, in most cases it’s unfortunately been proven that it’s the other way around and most terrorists have been homegrown – including our own two “lone wolf” incidents in Canada. All the attackers identified in the Paris massacre so far were born in Belgium and France, posing much more complex questions for our society with regards to real cultural and religious integration that I suspect far too many are not willing to acknowledge or deal with honestly. Should we call for a ban on French and Belgium nationals? Funny how no one has suggested that solution.

The number of refugees in the U.S. since 9/11 who have turned out to be terrorists? A big fat ZERO. The same number, by the way, applies for the large number of Bosnian Muslims who came to Canada and the States after the Bosnian civil war.

As for that Syrian passport that someone on their way to blow themselves up to a million pieces conveniently and irrationally felt compelled to carry with him (was he on his way to an all-inclusive afterwards and needed to quickly dash to the airport? Did no one seriously question how nothing remained of this man, yet a paper document could survive a blast this powerful? I have sooo many questions and none of them involve Syrian refugees). The latest reports seem to point to that passport being a fake, which is no surprise considering there is a burgeoning trade at the moment. It would not strike me in the least bit unlikely or exaggerated that a terrorist group would seek to demonize Syrians who “betrayed” them because they are attempting to flee their califate. If you can’t terrorize and kill them at home, why not ensure they are denied anywhere else to go? It’s brilliantly hateful and easily conceivable considering the climate of suspicion currently alive and well in the world.

  • REFUGEES POSE A THREAT TO CANADIAN SECURITY

Actually, it’s way tougher for someone to enter Canada as a refugee than as a visitor. Stop reading silly articles and dubious links chockfull of misinformation shared by your bigoted friend on Facebook and take the time to read real facts about refugees and refugee claimants in Canada from the Canadian Council for Refugees, a national non-profit umbrella organization in Canada. According to their information, the refugee determination process involves security checks by CSIS and the RCMP, fingerprinting and interviews. It is not likely that a person intending to commit a violent act would expose themselves to such detailed examinations. The Immigration and Refugee Protection Act excludes refugee claimants if they are found to be inadmissible on the basis of security, serious criminality, organized criminality or human rights violations. The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) checks all refugee claimants on arrival in Canada. Since the screening was put in place in 2001, it’s worth reminding people that the number of claimants found to represent any kind of security concern has been statistically insignificant.

  • WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM, BUT WE’RE GETTING READY TO ACCEPT 25,000?

Actually, that’s not true. According to a recent CTV interview with Peter Showler, the former chair of Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board, the UNHCR has already triaged the refugees and assessed those that would make ideal candidates for re-settlement. They, in turn, are then interviewed and assessed by Canadian Visa officers and finally by Canadian security agencies. The vast majority of the 25,000 Syrian refugees Canada would be accepting fled Syria years ago (they fled to neighbouring Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq) and have been in neighbouring countries as refugees for four years. To quote Showler: “We know who those people are. So it’s actually quite easy to identify 25,000 that fit into extremely low-risk security categories.”

Also, in addition, and I think worth mentioning for those citing all sorts of convenient reasons for preventing them from coming here, many of the refugees now arriving to Canada are sponsored.  Sponsored refugees are not even entitled to government assistance (including provincial assistance) during the period of their sponsorship (usually for one year after arrival in Canada).  Their income support must be provided by their sponsors and/or volunteer community groups.

  • IS THERE A WAY TO GET THE RISK DOWN TO 0%?

In essence, many of those freaking out right now and trying to shut down our borders or delay the arrival of people who desperately need to come here, are asking this very question. Can we find a way to eliminate the risk factor to helping people? The answer is no. Take a quick look at the world around you and tell me how you think you can inoculate yourself from all threats –real or otherwise, miniscule or major? I’m sorry, you just can’t.

We’ve allowed the government increased surveillance access to our most private conversations, we allow security guards to pat us down and scan our bodies through X-ray machines, we take off our shoes, we suffer through a myriad of questions while crossing the border, we travel on trains that have signs saying “If you see something, say something”. We believe those actions make us safer. We believe they reduce the risk, the fear, the possibility of another plane or another building or another human being going down. But the sheer truth of it all is that they help a little to make things safer, but mostly just create the illusion of safety in most of these cases.

Because deep down inside we know that no security or safety check in the world can predict or prevent a crazed fanatic or raging madman from entering a room full of people and blowing himself up. We know that. Sure, we do what we can, but at the end of the day life is a series of random luck chances and, as the Paris incident just demonstrated, death can simply be about nothing more than being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Now, knowing all that, what do you do about it? You put in place the best security plan you can muster and you go on about your life. And you remain human. You prove yourself a thousand times better than the evil in this world. You go on. Despite the fear and the horror and the paralyzing doubts, you move on and you refuse to recoil and react in horror and hatred, the way these assholes predictably expect you to.

Since 2011, 12 million Syrians have fled their homes because of conflict, making it the world’s worst humanitarian crisis; half of those fleeing are children. More than 3,200 have perished this year alone attempting to cross into Europe via treacherous sea crossing because there is no “home” to return to and their children are a lost generation, wasting away in camps receiving no education and having no hope.

With winter coming, and with every day and week a matter of life and death for many of these people, it is unconscionable that we are delaying admitting them. No rational piece of evidence exists to substantiate such a delay and all safety requests are based on nothing but knee-jerk reactions and fear-based rhetoric. Syrian refugees are ESCAPING the horror Parisians experienced for one night. That carnage, that fear, those tears, and that despair? These families have lived it for years. They have watched loved ones die, their homes destroyed, their hope for a future extinguished, and now are watching from the sidelines as the world vilifies them for something they had absolutely nothing to do with.

If we don’t collectively snap out of it and find our humanity, we will (to use a popular phrase circulating often after 9/11) “have let the terrorists win”. We will have let fear and hate win over hope and love. If we claim to be better than them, we need to be fucking better than them. Otherwise we will look back on this the way Canadians now shamefully look back at the story of the St. Louis in 1939, when 907 Jewish refugees aboard the German transatlantic liner were seeking sanctuary from Nazi Germany and were callously turned away. The ship sailed back to Europe, where 254 would later die in concentration camps.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be part of a country that turns people in need away. If we aspire to learn from our collective failings in the past, how about we start now?

  • Oh Canada

    I became your friend on Facebook because of articles like this one.

  • Grant Miller

    Great read… thanks.

  • E Perr

    Who will you check their references with? Impossible. Sad but true.

  • Orville FAUGHT

    We got to help as many real refugees as we can. The federal government is doing the right thing. I support their election promise and the action they are taking on this matter.

  • GS

    I am not sure if one issue (refugees) has anything to do with the other (terrorism)> It is only natural that ISIS will take advantage of this flood of people to inject some of its soldiers into Western countries. It is only common sense. But the question is where do you stop accepting immigrants. Can you host all of Syria? Who is going to be let if Syria? ISIS? This is not just a humanitarian issue that you can solve by taking a few refugees. Turkey alone has about 2 million refugees ready and cross into anywhere. Do you want the rest of Syria? And the people that stay? Are they expected to join the ISIS Caliphate?
    Can we just apply a bit of common sense for a change…

    • Donna Chambers

      Why would they bother? Seriously, it would be easier to enter Canada as a tourist than go under the scrutiny of the refugee process. And has it not been the case that MOST of the terrorists are home-grown?

    • Renate2459

      These aren’t immigrants they are REFUGEES – they have nothing left to fight for in their country. Fanatics have blown up and killed everything that walked. They are fleeing for their lives and have been for years. Do you not understand this? They need help and not when we deem it ok, they need help now. NIMBY is alive and well with the minority of the population. You know what Karma is a nasty thing but I guarantee that she will be calling on each and every one of us. Remember what your stance was in regards to this crisis, when you or your family face your own crisis (and you will face a crisis) and then let’s see if you get the help you need. What goes around comes around………

  • L R

    And our fairly good gun control laws also reduce the risk of a similar incident. Acquiring automatic weapons in Canada is not easy and attempts to do so would raise alarm bells and get those people watched/arrested.

    In the end, the one way to defeat ISIS is to prove that we are better than they are. Refugees are welcomed!

    • Wendy Faye

      Germany said this same thing, Britain too, Norway too – please google it – now they are in a mess that they cannot get out of. They are in danger just by walking the street. these people cannot and will not assimilate. Its not about welcoming – its much much more. Please watch this short news clip http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/August/Culture-Crisis-Norway-Tackles-Muslim-Immigration-/

      • Douglas

        You posted an article from about muslims being a detriment in Norway, but you don’t mention the white right wing nut job that murdered 69 people. It happened the same year and he was a national.

        We live in Canada. We are a cultural mosaic, not a melting pot. Assimilation happens naturally.
        The only people who are in danger walking the street are people like you who feed and perpetuate fear and islamophobia. Live in fear and you will be scared walking down the street. You probably have more chance of being hit by a car while on your walk than getting killed by a muslim.
        Take a deep breath and relax. Open your eyes.

        • William M. Milano

          you discredited yourself with the use of Islamophobia, which is a Muslim word for people who disagree with their ways or fear the horrible things they do our their book teaches them to do. Your the problem man attacking your own.

          • Douglas

            Firstly, I’m almost positive that ‘islamophobia’ is an english word…You discredit yourself by trying to define a word that you don’t know the definition to.
            Secondly, muslim is not a language. When you say things like this, it shows that you do not have the slightest grasp of the topic of conversation that you are trying to engage in.
            I am not a muslim.
            I am a human that understands that when other innocent humans are looking for refuge, why not offer help to those who are in need?Why not follow through with the screening process that is even more stringent than before?

          • Sandcat

            I’d like to point out that if there is such a thing as ‘islamophobia’, then it is a legitimate fear, as much as agorophobia is. Mental illness shouldn’t be mocked, and mocking is exactly what you are doing when you toss it out there. Phobias are mental conditions. “When you say things like this, it shows that you do not have the slightest grasp of the topic of conversation that you are trying to engage in.”

            Yes, we should take in refugees. No, we should not lift security screening. Security and provision are not mutually exclusive. I agree with you there.

          • Douglas

            I agree that agoraphobia is a mental condition.
            Islamophobia is not an actual mental condition, but a term to express the irrational fear of muslims brought on by the 24-hour news cycle, close-mindedness, lack of critical thought, prejudice ideals, etc.
            By no means am I implying that you lack critical thought or anything I just listed, but I think that by trying make Islamophobia an actual mental disorder is pretty far fetched. That’s like saying that racism isn’t a socially reproduced prejudice and is an actual psychological/mental disorder. Muslim people can be white, black and everything in between. How is one supposed to distinguish if somebody is muslim and be afraid of them unless they walk the streets in fear of everybody.

          • Sandcat

            If the fear is irrational (as you state yourself), then it is a phobia and a mental problem. You can’t have it both ways. stop insulting the mentally ill.

          • C Novak

            The term “phobia” at the end implies an irrational fear. Ask the people of Paris if their “phobia” is irrational. Or the people of New York after the attacks of 9/11. Our fears are not irrational. We are dealing with terrorists and they are cowards and hide among the weak and helpless (or at least they appear to be so.) I don’t wish harm on anyone in the world but I would like to see my culture preserved and with the onslaught of Muslims into Canada and every other culture in the world we are quickly being replaced. This will not turn out to be a good thing for Canada. Mark my words! :(

          • Douglas

            You are equating Muslims with terrorists. That is irrational.
            How many people commit atrocities in Canada that aren’t Muslim? How about around the world?
            What is the Canadian culture? Is the Canadian culture not based on immigrants and a variety of different people co-existing?

  • Homer Sheehy

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nunavut-housing-shortage-1.3255315?cmp=abfb
    we should look after own first…
    Nothing against refugees where ever they come from..

    • Alannah Jensen

      Yes WE should…

      The whole world needs help. People in their own country who are able can get off their asses and go make a difference right here at home. If you can – go adopt a child or foster some. If you can – go spend time and your own money because it’s from the heart and shouldn’t matter and go shop to feed homeless people. If you can get off your ass and give someone access to a warm shower and a bed to sleep in instead of $2 in their cup if you bother to even do that. Is everyone – anyone brave enough to do it themselves that we must complain to the government to do it for us?

      When there are people in our country that need help and are actually surrounded by people who CAN do something about it – it is us – us that make the difference at home. And when we don’t – we are the disgrace. When you have desperate people in a country who are not surrounded by anyone who can do a damn thing about it, then aid is required.

      You have the opportunity to dig deep and be that difference. There’s always someone less fortunate than you think you are.

      • Kristin Barnes

        Thank you! I am so damn tired of hearing this argument from people who do nothing to help.

        • Renate2459

          ditto

      • Renate2459

        Well said Allanah – some of the people use our homeless problems as their back up for why they are against the refugees. If they really cared about our homeless in the first place there would be no homeless. Hypocrites

    • Alan Ciz

      Homer Sheehy – I agree with part of your sentiment but would like to amend it. Instead of saying FIRST, we should look after our own AS WELL. People in need are people in need regardless of where they come from and what flag they were born under. Let’s stop classifying based on national lines and start to just look at humanity as a whole and understand that where we can help, we goddamned well should, regardless of any other factors. Let’s be global citizens here guys.

    • Donna Chambers

      And the last time you helped a homeless person, a First Nations’ person, a vet?? When and how was that exactly?

  • Wendy Faye
  • James

    Great Article. However, for the sake of accuracy, it should be noted the Muslim woman was pushed into the train days before the Paris attack, not as a result of. But your article is otherwise on point.

    • Jdawg Laurence

      Find one mistake, there’s probably others. And there are already a few I’ve seen. Not ALL the terrorists were French/Belgian citizens. Possibly 2 or more were refugees. Also, being a citizen does not mean you did not immigrate, which is how the author is acting.

  • refsareouttolunch

    If someone gave me a bowl of grapes and told me that one was poisonous, I would be checking every grape prior to eating. I would not eat the grapes blindly. When I lock my door at night. It isn’t because I hate those on the outside, It is because I love the ones on the inside. When I pull up to a stop sign and my wife says, “all clear”, I still check.

    • Rob Callaghan

      the difference is the bowl of grapes isnt a normal bowl, its the size of an Olympic swimming pool, and its not one IS poisonous… its 1 MIGHT be. (and fun fact: everything you eat could be poisonous. )

      • Sandcat

        Fun fact: your definition of fun fact is flawed. Everything you eat ‘could’ be poisonous, and every thought you have ‘could’ be the Matrix.

        In the case of Paris, 1 definitely was a ‘refugee’, as the fake passport number was traced to Greece, with the guy’s fingerprints.

        • Jarrett

          how does a greek passport stipulate “Refugee” just for clarification….

          • Sandcat

            I don’t know what you are talking about, there were no Greek passport holders involved in the Paris shootings.

          • Rob Callaghan

            I believe they are referring to the passport found at one of the bombing locations, that people seem to believe belonged to the bomber.
            it was “linked” to Syrian refugees, and then “linked” to the bomber.
            as to “prove” refugees are actually just terrorists, that have left Syria not because a lot of it looks like Ground 0 at Hiroshima, and not because deaths and murders of innocent people there is basically just as typical as Bad drivers are here….

            [sarcasm]
            No they left because Chaos isn’t Chaotic enough and not everyone got deed yet, so they want bring Syria everywhere.
            [/sarcasm]

          • EddyCutz

            lol you must be a programmer :) No one else, but a nerd like me would understand your sarcasm with the closing bracket.

          • CoastalBreeze

            I totally understood and I am not a programmer, or a nerd, LOL Someone just needs to invent a sarcasm font, especially for comment boards where most cannot recognize sarcasm even when it is dripping

          • 69f100

            You are still ignoring the severed finger with the confirmed finger print ? Did this killer also carry a severed finger with him ? An excerpt taken from the UK Telegraph Nov. 19 ;
            The real name of the suicide bomber apparently carrying a fake Syrian passport when he detonated at the Stade de France remains a mystery, but officials say he entered Europe as an asylum seeker less than two months earlier.

            The counterfeit document bearing the name ‘Ahmad al Mohammad’ was found alongside the body, whose fingerprints match a man using the name to enter Greece in early October.

            Federica Mogherini, the EU’s chief diplomat, said all the attackers are believed to be EU citizens, however, raising the possibility the man was using the fake passport to re-enter Europe, possibly because his real identity was on a watch list.

          • Greg Goremykin

            Did you miss the part in the article where it explains that these people have been in UNRA camps already for 2 to 4 years?? They aren’t being picked up off the streets of Raqqa, or taking boats to Greece. Read before you post ffs.

          • woxnerw

            Do you believe everything you read in the MEDIA to be TRUE? The Wheat-from-the-Chaff has already been separated.. Do you honestly think that the EU is going to be keeping any Chaff? The French and the UK have already made that mistake 10-15 years ago.. The US Taxpayers aren’t stupid.. They don’t want these people.. and they will delay taking these people for as long as they can.. Who do you think started this MESS? I hope you don’t need anyone to tell you.. O.K. I’ll tell you.. It started when the World’s Bankers brought the Soviet Union to it’s knees and the USA took over.. BUT.. Don’t forget, the Americans were already into Bosnia.. As a result we went in there and brought many of our best Sons home in Boxes.. sigh.. We got NO Business over there.. What are we doin’ over there? AND why aren’t we in Ottawa protesting this issue 24 hours a day? ..

          • woxnerw

            SO.. Tell me? You must believe everything you read-and-hear in the MEDIA, as well.. Start reading-and-watching Independent NEWS MEDIA.. Do yourself a Favor.. {sarcasm out}..

          • Rob Callaghan

            WTF is with people blasting me about being media sheep?
            Has any one of you idiots actually stopped to check if my stance even aligns with the media? (SPOILER: It Doesn’t, Its basically Polar Opposite)

            Quit telling me i need to better look into things when you are so capable of missing something as obvious as this.

          • Jdawg Laurence

            FAKE passport. FAKE. Many male refugees have been getting FAKE passports to get in Europe, and many have been “losing” their passports as well. The FAKE passport was made in Greece, possibly for a refugee.

        • Rob Callaghan

          Every good terrorist carries there passports with them to suicide bombings. it obviously couldn’t belong to one of the many many people around that were not planning to die that day.

          Also, What the fuck they make these Syrian passports out of? I want a passport that can take being inches from the point of detonation and not be phased.

          • Karen Bonner

            Much like the passports that survived the burning jet fuel and falling towers of 9/11. Ask George Bush where he had those passports made, I’m sure he’ll hook you up.

          • Sandcat

            Stop ignoring evidence staring you right in the face.

            “At least two terrorists took migrant route

            At least two of the terrorists involved in last Friday’s
            terrorist attacks in Paris took the migrant route, according to French
            reports, intensifying fears that terrorists are passing themselves off
            as would-be refugees, writes Henry Samuel.

            Britain, among other EU states, has contacted France to try and
            understand how this happened to avoid any repeats “on their name”,
            according to Le Monde.

            French interior minister sources told EU counterparts directly
            after the attacks that left 129 dead that there was a “strong
            probability” that “certain terrorists have returned (to Europe) from
            Syria by passing themselves off as migrants”, the paper reports.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12007011/Paris-attacks-as-it-happened-on-Thursday-Nov-19.html

          • Greg Goremykin

            What do illegal migrants taking boats to Greece have to do with UN-vetted refugees that have spent 4 years wallowing in camps as displaced persons, 3/4 of them women and children? You’re rattling on and on and on about something that has zero relevance to the topic. Dummy up.

          • mjh49783ab

            Like the two entire buildings, and everything within them, were actually vaporized in the same way a suicide bomber would vaporize him/herself. Oh, those buildings collapsed, you say? Well, that’s not the same thing as something being vaporized, isn’t it?

            Idiot!

          • Sandcat

            It could have been in his sock for all you know. Second, they traced the fingerprints on the passport to Greece. How do you think that can be faked? Or are you a conspiracy nut job?

          • Rob Callaghan

            i never said it was faked…. I suggested that perhaps….. and i know this is a long shot….. but perhaps, The simplest solution is the correct one. (as it usually is)

            IE the passport belonged to someone that was a bystander.
            Its crazy to think, but believe it or not, France honest to god has a tourism industry. sometimes, people from not France, go to France.
            *head explodes*

          • Sandcat

            A bystander just happened to have and plant a fake syrian passport before the investigators got there?

            Ignoring the fingerprints on the passport that have been traced to a Greek entry port?

            And you think your solution is simple? It does one simple thing – ignores the facts about the fingerprints.

            It’s crazy to think, but I have likely seen more of the world than you (52 countries and counting) and live in the Middle East, and I don’t think the open-borders crowd are in any way rational. The obscenely rich country where I live, for example, has accepted a grand total of zero refugees from Syria. Why? Security. They’re more than happy to have Western Europe take their fellow Arabs, as long as they don’t recieve a single one.

            I’m all for immigration, with restrictions.

          • Pat Passmore-Goertzen

            If you checked the latest on that passport there was another fellow in Europe with the same passport, different picture, different prints, but same name date of birth where he was born. Why would a terrorist not falsify a passport and put someone elses name on it. And especially when the main goal of a terrorist is to cause fear. What better way to cause fear than to make people think that refugees are terrorists. I am not afraid of accepting refugees that have already been screened by the United Nations and have been in refugee camps for up to 4 years since this crisis started. We are not bringing in those who have fled to Europe lately. They have already been checked out by authorities over there. I bet some were afraid to accept my Irish ancestors that came to Canada in the 1800’s and maybe even my British ancestors. There is nothing to fear but fear itself. The fact is probably more terrorist acts have been done in Canada in the last week against Canadians than in our history. Those against Moslums and other ethnic groups. Hate crimes. That is not my Canada. That fosters radicallaition of the terrorists you fear. Making it a vicious circle. Kindness changes things for the better, instead of for the worst.

          • Rob Callaghan

            again, show me sources and i will be happy to reconsider my stance.

          • canadian man
          • Sandcat

            “What better way to cause fear than to make people think that refugees are terrorists.”

            Proof that the ‘refugee’ leader of the terrorists, was, in fact, not a refugee, but a terrorist.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12004756/Paris-attacks-Abdelhamid-Abaaoud-police-France-terrorist-Islamic-State-flight-live.html

            Side question: How does crow taste?

          • Rob Callaghan

            what is with you and planting…. not every action has intent you know…. Thats why we have words like accident.

            I have also not seen anything showing any kind of evidence linking the passport to terrorism, or suggesting that it was fake. By all means if you can show me some (unbias) source for that information I would be happy to dismiss the entire pasport argument i have made thus far.

            Im not above changing my stance, I just wont do it on faith, or he said she said crap.

          • Sandcat

            The passport has been traced to a port in Greece. Every news source has been reporting it’s fake for days. Google is your friend.

          • Greg Goremykin

            …and false equivalencies are your own only argument. Dummy up.

          • mjh49783ab

            Of course it’s fake. It didn’t pop on the scene by accident. However, with no body to compare it with, not that it would’ve mattered anyway, why even bother to take it out of your pocket before blowing yourself up?

            It wasn’t even a good fake, but, you don’t need a good fake when you want to use a passport as a decoy. Hmmm, sounds like that would be something that ISIS would do.

            However, since the passport is fake, you can’t even say that the bearer of said document was even Syrian, let alone one of the refugees. There is no evidence to support that, and a fake passport is not evidence of nationality, nor is it proof of anything legitimate, because the document itself is not legitimate. Hence, a fake document. It doesn’t matter that some border post in Greece stamped it, except that THAT particular border post didn’t do their job.

            Since a fake passport proves nothing, all that CAN be proven, is that ALL of the perpetrators of the Paris attacks are EU citizens. That is one thing which is not in dispute. Anyone that claims that there was a Syrian refugee involved in the attack, doesn’t know what they’re talking about, because the evidence simply isn’t there at this time.

            Lastly, anyone trying to claim the Syrian refugee angle, based on a fake passport, needs to have their head examined, because a fake document proves nothing at all. It’s a decoy. A false trail. Again, if I were to vaporize myself in jihad, why would I bother to leave a fake passport behind, unless I wanted to deceive people into a course of action? Do you think ISIS really doesn’t know that the Western World is really uneasy with Muslims? Of course they knew. That is why they exploited it, so that we would be in a panic over the refugees. War isn’t all about bullets and bombs. It is also psychological, and that war is being fought among us to great effect. That is the part of the war that they’re winning. The refugees are not the threat that people think they are. The real threat is our own compatriots running off to join ISIS, because they know that no border is going to stop them from returning ‘home’ to commit terrorist acts. That is why ALL of the attackers were EU citizens.

            C’mon, guys! Connect the dots! Can’t you see we’re being had?

          • Sandcat

            Tl;Dr.

            Guys fingerprints are in record coming through Greece as a refugee. End of story.

          • mjh49783ab

            Passport is FAKE. The border post in Greece was incompetent. End of story.

          • Sandcat

            Source for all your claims, please.

          • mjh49783ab

            Google it. It’s public knowledge.

          • Sandcat

            And of course the passport is fake, you clown. You think the Syrian government gives those out anymore? What planet are you from? How do you think these legitimate refugees enter Greece?
            Hint: with fake documentation.

          • mjh49783ab

            What legitimate refugees? What legitimate paperwork? You’re the clown that’s trying to claim the ‘legitimacy’ of a person’s whereabouts with a fake document, and there is where your argument falls apart.

            Now. Come back down to earth, before your head explodes from the lack of air pressure.

          • Sandcat

            My arguments went right over your head.
            Tall order. heh.

          • mjh49783ab

            Keep telling yourself that if you want. You and I both know you lost. When considering your ridiculous arguments with others on this thread, it is clear that you’ve lost against pretty much everyone.

            Now, float away. :)

          • Sandcat

            You mean the links to articles in the Telegraph? Yeah so ridiculous that a ‘refugee’ turned out to be a wanted terrorist.

            You’re hilariously poorly read.

          • Renate2459

            Did you read the above article? What you are proposing has already been proved erroneous. And that my friends is what the above noted article was all about – fear breeding ignorance, intolerance and irrational thought.

          • Sandcat

            The above article is factually wrong. The leader of the ring that attacked Paris entered Europe as a refugee. Of course, he wasn’t an actual refugee, but in order to feel good about letting refugees in you and your ilk allowed him in, end result is 129 dead Parisians.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12004756/Paris-attacks-Abdelhamid-Abaaoud-police-France-terrorist-Islamic-State-flight-live.html

            Your ignorance gets people killed. Literally.

            And that, my friends, is what this is all about – PC bred ignorance, intolerance for reason and rationality gets people killed.

          • Greg Goremykin

            Again, illegal migrants in Europe =/= vetted and prioritized low-risk refugees in United Nations camps. Dummy up.

          • Sandcat

            Illegal immigrants being the vast majority, and after they spend a certain amount of time in the EU they get passports. What could possibly go wrong?

            Dummy up yourself, clown.

          • Airman74

            The article facts are wrong, and yours are 100% correct? Based on what research that you have done bud? I think therefor I am?

          • Sandcat

            Yeah, the article I linked to provides proof. Read it.

          • Jdawg Laurence

            The article proved things on its own? Sorry, but this article hasn’t even been peer reviewed, nor has it been cross-examined for the statistics and (possible) facts in it. Peer reviewed articles don’t even prove anything most of the time. How can you expect an article on a blog to be proof of something? Especially when they already got the idea that none of the terrorists were refugees, when it is likely that one was, and quite possible that at least two were.

          • Brad Coffey

            While things are being debated and peer reviewed, refugees are suffering. I hate a lot of liberal PC crap, but helping people in trouble is just the right thing to do. If somebody was trapped in a burning house there are those that feel compelled to act and those that feel the risks are too high. I’d rather be the former.

          • Gino Woods

            The truth(as I see it) is that none of us realize what these people go through every day!! I thank God that I wake up in the morn without worriying about bombs going off!! We have always welcomed people into Canada, and most have become outstanding citezens!!

          • Jdawg Laurence

            Fair point, but wouldn’t it be more helpful to them to set up places near there homes which would help many more people for a fraction of the cost, and allow them to return home afterwards as well?

            Also, I don’t know if you’ve done any research on the status of Germany or Sweden and their refugee crises right now, but it’s not looking too great for them.

          • Brad Coffey

            I think you’re right about the first point, however I don’t believe there’s a global authority that can enact/ enforce such a plan. Germany tried to offer Turkey money to take care of the refugees there and Turkey refused. Donations to the local UN refugee camps fell short of what the UN requested. The UN itself often mismanages funds all the time and the Gulf states have been useless in the effort to help.

          • Brad Coffey

            I’ll look into the Germany Sweeden thing you suggested. I did however already look into past refugee influxes here in Canada. In 1956 we took in over 30 000 Hungarians. In the 1970’s over 60 000 Vietnamese. Similar numbers of Yugoslavians in the 90’s. Each time we were worried about cost, intigration, and communist/ islami infiltrators, and now those events are seen as times of national pride when we helped those in need.

          • woxnerw

            What are you trying to say, BUD? This whole thing is all about War Mongering.. There are places in Paris that the Police wouldn’t even enter.. They don’t live under French Laws They don’t Pay Taxes and they don’t earn a living wage.. The same goes on in the UK.. BUT you wouldn’t hear the MEDIA talk about those issues.. Come back here when you’ve read up on the REAL NEWS.. eh?

          • Greg Goremykin

            Why are you still talking about Greece, or France? The refugees coming to Canada have been in camps for YEARS… do you honestly think ISIS is dumb enough to stick someone in a camp for literally years where they have an extremely high likelihood of being caught, an extremely low likelihood of ever making it anywhere other than Jordan, Turkey, or Lebanon, especially when they need every able-bodied fighter they can on the frontlines?

            Comparing refugees in UNHRA camps to migrants entering the EU illegally is nonsensical. So is blaming all Muslims for the actions of a tiny minority of them… that makes as much sense as it would in 1978 blaming Mormons in Salt Lake City for an IRA bombing in Belfast. Dummy up.

          • Sandcat

            Lol repeat yourself more when you have no argument. Write

          • Airman74

            How could they track a fingerprint on a passport to Greece? WTF are you talking about? Are you trying to say they dust passports for new fingerprints at every checkpoint? And then feed it into a database? What if they told you they found dna from piss dribble that they traced back to the Disneyland urinals? Would that mean the terrorizers got their motivation from the “its a small world ride”.

          • Shawna Waller

            Syrian passports have the holders fingerprints right on them along with the photograph, it was not “dusted” for fingerprints. You can see so yourself if you look up the articles that have a photograph of the passport.

          • mjh49783ab

            “A bystander just happened to have and plant a fake syrian passport before the investigators got there?”

            Really? Ever hear of a false flag operation, Sandcat? Stop being gullible.

          • Filiz

            The ignorance and naïveté of some ppl here is mind boggling. With everything that is happening in the Middle East and Europe they are still hell bent on keeping their heads in the sand.

          • Sandcat

            The fundamental assumption of the progs is all worldviews are equally valid, except the conservative worldview. Thus when terrorists kill people the real bad guys are not the jihadis but us.

          • Az

            The dude blew himself up, so even the socks weren’t identifiable. Explosion-proof passport perhaps?

          • Sandcat

            Something tells me you have no idea what you’re saying. Are you an explosives expert?

          • Airman74

            Something tells me you don’t know much of anything, go lay down before you hurt yourself.

          • mjh49783ab

            You don’t have to be an explosives expert to understand something so clearly self evident, that when said suicide bomber vaporized himself in an explosion, that ANY passport that he would’ve been carrying, would also be vaporized.

            The fact that said fake Syrian passport was found, INTACT, strongly suggests a plant. Likely by ISIS themselves. They would have a LOT to gain by demonizing the Syrian refugees, and the idiots are buying into the scam hook, line, and sinker.

          • Peggy MacGillivray

            Did you happen to see the millions of pieces of paper, drivers licenses, passports, and photos that were all over the sidewalks and roads after 9/11? They still have baskets of I.D., that were never claimed.

          • mjh49783ab

            Not that it’s of any relevance to current events, but two airliners brought down the World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. No one vaporized themselves on a suicide bombing run that day in New York City. So of course there were papers all over the place once said building collapsed. Duh!

            Now, should we start again?

          • todco

            You should start again as you have no idea what happens to objects that are blown up by conventional explosions. A nuclear bomb vaporizes things. TNT blasts them around and small objects like passports are quite often totally intact.

          • todco

            Things like passports don’t vaporize in an explosion. I had an explosives ticket. I used them extensively many years ago. Your impression on what happens to an object that has a few pounds of TNT next to it is totally wrong.

          • Randy Levine

            There are several ways that the passport could have survived the explosion… Explosions don’t simply vaporize everything within its range. ‘Chunks’ can be projected intact. It’s plausible that the passport was protected from the explosion by parts of his body. Basic physics….But that’s not the point… If you keep finding bleeding heart reasons to allow these people to enter our country(s), given the obvious and proven risks, then you deserve to die by their hand…And you eventually will with that dangerous attitude… These two parts of the world are NOT compatible… It is obvious that Muslim mentality has yet to mature. It’s dark and unevolved… Stop spreading your brand of “love”… It’s going to kill us all!! … The only reason you sympathize is because you are one of them!

          • RMC1980

            1/3 people in the world are Muslim. They’re here. They’ve been here for a long time. I think they’re plenty evolved and quite capable of living in the Western world.

          • Sandcat

            1.4/7 !=0.333

            Lurn math.

          • Airman74

            One doesn’t have to be a conspiracy nut job! Are you an idiot? In his sock lol. I gotta get me some of those bomb blast proof socks, that way I will be safe in case a terrorizer ever comes after me….well, at least my feet and passport will be.

          • CoastalBreeze

            and I want fingers that can survive the detonation, be severed from the body and still show fingerprints. I think there are too many people watching too many fictional tv shows, and prefer to believe that rather than reality (and I don’t mean reality tv)

          • Annette Modien

            Do the killers want to be remembered? They are heroes to their family and friends. I’m told they leave video wills and send love to their families. They do not consider themselves criminals.

        • eleanor elliott

          they say now at least 2 were maybe more

        • valkyrie17

          French officials believe it was deliberately set there…and they are not going to stop accepting refugees, despite the attack. More courageous than we are…

        • JMJ8679

          Are you some sort of passport verifier? You can guarantee that was in fact a refugee ‘fake’ passport?? You are perspicacious aren’t you.

          • Sandcat

            There’s been loads of news articles about it. Don’t take my word for it, try using Google.

        • Airman74

          Yeah…and who makes and distributes passports? The government! Any chance they could just whip one up to corroborate their story? As the article says, it’s amazing how paper can stand up to high temperatures and blasts that concrete and steel can’t. Same as at the twin towers, when the dust settles, all the proof one needs is just sitting neatly on top of the pile, ready to be picked up and pointed out.

      • refsareouttolunch

        It’s a known fact that about half of 1 percent of the refugees are lsis members disguised as a refugee. You need to verify all your news, not accept it as it is fed to you.

        • Anthony

          If that was a known fact it means they actually identified them and removed them. Are you that much of a fucking dolt? lolololol

        • Rob Callaghan

          if its such a well known fact you should have no issue producing your sources

          • Karen Bonner

            Not everyone relies on CBC and fox news as their “source” for information, Rob Callaghan. Some people actually get information directly from the source, and it ain’t the sugarcoated bullshit you’re fed by Canadian media and your pretty new Prime Minister.

          • Finklestein Lastname

            Still conveniently no “sources”. Or do you just check the conservative website for the latest talking points?

          • eleanor elliott

            check what has happened in Germany and Sweden. not a pretty picture

          • Rob Callaghan

            uh…. my opinion is contradicting the mass media opinion…. so that statement about mainstream news applies a lot more to you than it does to me…..

            also, you are suggesting you went out and interviewed thousands of potential immigrants to see if they were terrorists? and further a bunch of them admitted to you they were in fact members of ISIS?

            otherwise, i don’t get what you were getting at with “direct from source”….. and so i repeat, if its a well known fact, you should have no issue with citation.

          • eleanor elliott

            the truth is not always in the mainstream media

          • Rob Callaghan

            mainstream media almost never gives a full truth… but i fail to see what your point is…. as i have already stated…. my stance goes AGAINST what the media say not with it…. Obviously that means im not using the media as my source for info…

          • eleanor elliott

            good for you, then you understand the danger

          • eleanor elliott

            absolutely correct. once there is a cancer In the country you will never get it out without a lot of pain

          • valkyrie17

            Please do NOT insult the CBC by comparing it to Fox “News”.

          • Sandcat

            Easier done than said.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12007011/Paris-attacks-as-it-happened-on-Thursday-Nov-19.html

            “At least two terrorists took migrant route

            At least two of the terrorists involved in last Friday’s
            terrorist attacks in Paris took the migrant route, according to French
            reports, intensifying fears that terrorists are passing themselves off
            as would-be refugees, writes Henry Samuel.

            Britain, among other EU states, has contacted France to try and
            understand how this happened to avoid any repeats “on their name”,
            according to Le Monde.

            French interior minister sources told EU counterparts directly
            after the attacks that left 129 dead that there was a “strong
            probability” that “certain terrorists have returned (to Europe) from
            Syria by passing themselves off as migrants”, the paper reports.”

          • Greg Goremykin

            Are you unable to understand the difference from a migrant that entered the EU illegally and registered refugees living in UN camps for years? Dummy up Sandcat,dummy up.

          • Sandcat

            Are you to stupid to read the damn article before displaying your ignorance to the world? Smarten up, clown.

        • Rowland Fell

          Wow Statistics being pulled out of your ass or a cracker jack box??

        • River Easton

          Funny… I read that .0006% of Muslims in the world are radicalized. How are so many of them in the refugee program and why are we hearing nothing about actual refugees causing terror attacks?

        • Donna Chambers

          Please verify your sources.

        • CoastalBreeze

          Yes, because Isis terrorists have nothing better to do than sit around in refugee camps for years

        • Evan

          “It’s a known fact.”
          One of the most common phrases in the English language with no meaning.
          Exactly where did you get this “known fact”? Do you actually believe every piece of hearsay you come across? You espouse verifying all news. Please verify your source for your “known fact”. I’m taking your advice and not believing something until I can verify it.

      • Jeff Neufeld

        I used to work in a produce department. We’d find black widow spiders in the grapes. So the grapes you’re eating COULD kill you. Just have a look at the dang grapes and move on. 99.99% of the time there’s no spider, and if there is, it probably won’t even kill you 😀

      • Barb Marchuk

        If there were an Olympic size swimming pool full of grapes and someone told you that one or more MAY BE poisonous…. would you let your child eat them? Fun Fact: tens of thousands of refugees from other countries with horrible stories as bad or worse have been standing in line going through procedure to get into our countries…. they are worth as much as anyone else that might be pushed ahead of them because of political pressure.

    • Shane Patrick Gunter

      Exactly!!!!!

    • eleanor elliott

      there is a very good chance there will be bad grapes in the group we get as they will be vetted way too fast for safety. trudeau is saying he wants 25,000 here in the country by jan1. that is insane and very unsafe. no check could be anywhere near safe and shows his immaturity as a leader to want that.

      • Rob Callaghan

        do you happen to know how many people pass through airport security in n average day?

        Pearson alone handles about 1100 flights a day….. so assuming each flight had only a single person on it. Pearson alone would STILL clear 25,000 people in less than a month. if there was only 22 people on each aircraft…. Pearson itself can clear that many people in a single day….. But the fact is, Pearson probably clears MORE than that a day.

        If Pearson can screen over 25,000 people every 24 hours…. Im sure the Entire Government and its full resources can make it through 25,000 people by January…

        • eleanor elliott

          the government has already reported to trudeau that they need much more time possibly into the middle of next year to feel confident but they will try to rush it if possible. makes me feel so confident

        • Jdawg Laurence

          Tourism and migration are far different concepts.

          • Sandcat

            Not to that clown.

        • Sandcat

          Pearson doesn’t ‘screen’ anyone.

          It checks your bags, not your brains. What a naive clown you are. Screening these people means intensive interviews with them, their friends, their coworkers, their families, looking at their job history, their travel history, their financial history….NONE of which Pearson does.

          Wow you are ignorant.

      • Donna Chambers

        Did you even read the article? These people have already been vetted.

        • eleanor elliott

          sorry you are totally wrong. when you read the canadian papers the country and government is anxious about time limit to vet these people. please try to be informed when going online to discuss matters of great importance

        • eleanor elliott

          get with the real program. no no no they have not been vetted and there is now a major problem with trudeaus program of immigration as noted by government officials.

          • Renate2459

            Yes Eleanor they have been vetted. The ones the government are picking have been living in camps for two or more years. My question to you is what terrorist (in their right mind) would sit in a refugee camp for two years, being scrutinized by multiple levels of security from our country, trying to blend in as a refugee, so he/she can come into our country and blow us all up. That is a very poor use of resources if Daesh is as smart as the world’s security sources say. We need to think rationally and not let ourselves be swayed by propaganda.

          • eleanor elliott

            they are not vetted as the government has said it will take months to do a good job. the americans have come to their senses and are trying to stop the influx to their country as they know that it is not a safe thing to do.
            people like you are the first to scream when something bad happens after the fact. there is no safe way to do this amount in the time set out by trudeau. please stop polluting the internet with your nonsense and don’t send me anymore ridiculous rebuttals to a common sense decision.

          • woxnerw

            Listen BUD.. This is still a FREE Country.. It may not be for long.. We are gonna know a whole lot more when our Justin (Bieber)…I mean Trudeau Gets back from this G20 Meeting.. By then we will have lost more Civil Rights when he informs his Taxpayers just what the UN,NATO, the Globalists and anyone else who thinks they know what Canada really needs..Before I say anymore try your level best not to tell anyone one the Forum what and how to say what they want to and when that want to say it.. I have on my mind what I think is important to say in this matter just as anyone else has on their mind(s) what they think they want to add to this Forum.. Let the Moderator control just what is said and published here.. AND you appear to be in everybody’s FACE from what I’ve seen on this thread.. They (the UN) already have 98% of our Fresh Drinking Water.. Harper has already given it way to Nestle in Switzerland.. sigh.. Trudeau will be told to connect himself to the Pacific Partnership Trade RIM.. We have become a bunch of sheep in a barrel of hot water waiting to be wooled.. sigh.. If we don’t soon start standing up for ourselves we’ll continue being the World’s Laughing Stock.. I’m sorry to say it.. The Honeymoon is all over with this NO MIND of his own Trudeau.. He BLEW it with Putin and he BLEW it with Obama.. AND now we are sending more Military over there.. Who knows how many? By April when the Budget comes out We’ll only begin to know how far we are in Debut.. That’s gonna be ONE figure we are all gonna hate.. along with a Carbon Tax and….and…..and…… If we don’t DISTANCE ourselves from that Country that we share a Border with I’m afraid for the worst.. sigh.. My RANT is over… and… You stay outta my Face.. eh?

      • Paula Bourque

        What was said is that the refugees who have lived in camps for over 2 years were already pre-screened before entering Canada. They are not going to just bring them in and drop them all in one place and say, there ya go. They are going to be assimilated, observed, helped. I don’t know if you knew that.

        • eleanor elliott

          tell that to different ministers across Canada who are trying to slow down the process, not stop it. the americans have realized their mistake and want to completely reject it as they have many jhadists in the states.
          if you take time and don’t rush the system it would be better for us and the refugees.

    • Andres

      Its easy to use anecdote with grapes. But grapes are not people. So let me rephrase with this…

      If there was 100 people in a mall, 1 person has a gun and threathening the lives of 99 people, do we help the 99 escape or should we just lock all the doors and let those 99 people fend for themselves because if we help them we might get hurt too?

      • Renate2459

        I think if those 99 people had any courage they would overtake the gunman. Same as Daesh – they are using this very effective method called propaganda to divide people thereby winning.

    • christel price

      well said

    • Lois Foster

      Yes good points!!

    • Renate2459

      It’s funny how we perceive the bad people to be on the outside trying to get in and we lock our doors against “them”. It is a well known fact that your family or loved ones will be the person that attacks you in the night. Stranger danger is very rare. Maybe we should keep our doors unlocked at night so it will be easier to escape when our loved ones come calling. Domestic violence, child abuse, murder, these are the things that afflict us from within and not that unknown entity in the dark.

    • Blair Nauffts

      well said…I will be repeating this for others to hear and applaud

    • Airman74

      Wow! And how is that lifestyle working out for you? There’s a subtle difference with your analogy here. What if that someone that told you the grapes were poisoned was just an asshole? I mean, it’s not far fetched, chances are it would be one of your bigoted friends (birds of a feather after all). Do you sit in the backyard with a loaded shotgun staring at the sky “Waitin for them dirty bastard aliens” to invade too? Seriously…how dramatic! “When I lock the door at night…..” What utter nonsense. I hope you find peace in life, but I’m sure if you can’t you’ll make it. “They can have my guns when they pry ’em from my cold dead hands!”. Unreal! Thank god we have people like you around to make the rest look intelligent!

    • Natika

      Awhile ago I heard this same analogy being used for men during the “not all men” are bad/rapists/violent media storm. As a woman, I go outside everyday knowing somewhere I might meet that one poisonous grape. In fact, I have a one in four chance. I still go outside. What else can you do if you wish to actually live?

      Everyday we see terrible stories on the news. We wring our hands and say, “How awful” and wish we could help. Some problems seem so complicated or so far away that we aren’t sure what to do, so we do nothing.

      Well now we’ve been handed an opportunity – a problem with a clear solution and a part we can play!

      If you can’t sponsor a Syrian family yourself… if you can’t take on the role of a good Samaritan yourself… at least let your neighbours do so. Take a deep breath, step back and realise that it could be you in that gutter one day… it could be you.

    • RMC1980

      Well I only lock my doors when I’m not home to protect my stuff. If someone wants to harm me and my family a lock isn’t going to help. I don’t fear every person out there and I’ve had a gun held to me in an armed robbery. Some people are the bottom of society but the majority are good people. If you’re so scared of people, how do you function?

  • refsareouttolunch

    When the Titanic was sinking, it was women and children into the lifeboats first. In Syria, it seems like the woman and children are being left behind to defend there homeland. Something seems strange.

    • River Easton

      Where do you get that evidence? Anything to back up that claim or is it just hear say?

      • Robert

        Exactly. I have seen zero proof of those allegations, although the fear factor fanatics keep pushing that hollow claim.

    • Dave McIntyre

      That’s because ISIS kills the women and children first; burying them in mass graves … they then try to “convert” the healthy men (meaning convert or die)

      Try educating yourself with facts before you spew hatred
      http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kurds-find-mass-graves-left-behind-by-islamic-state-in-town-of-sinjar-iraq-1.2659253

    • http://www.julieannemauno.com Julie-Anne Mauno

      Actually as you can see from the recent UNHCR stats below, the majority of Syrian refugees are children. Women make up slightly more of the refugee population than men. We must get our facts straight!

  • refsareouttolunch

    Why is it OK to condemn the folks from Westboro Baptist Church and not be seen as anti Christian? However, the second you criticize Radical Islam, you are condemned for being Anti Muslim, or an Islamophobe

    • Sandcat

      Because everyone knows Westboro don’t represent their faith, whilst Mohammad (propeller beanie upon him) and ISIS do represent their faith.

      • River Easton

        ISIS does not represent the beliefs of the vast majority of the 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world. Maybe you should ask some of them.

        • Robert

          You’re wasting your time pointing things like this out to people like Sandcat. The mere face that there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world would prove to the average sane person that if they were all ISIS or terrorists, they would be in full control of this planet by now.

          • Filiz

            Robert don’t worry it’s coming.

          • Michelle

            Just wait and see what’s coming!!!

        • greg major

          ISIS and other radicals are just living by the Quran as it was meant to be. Moderate Muslims believe mostly the same things, but don’t act on the extreme sides of the religion, and many do actually take the faith pretty seriously.

          • Renate2459

            Greg you need to read the Qur’an instead of assuming what Muslims, or what you call “moderate Muslims” believe. It is written in the Qur’an that, according to Allah, as spoken by Mohammed, suicide is AGAINST Allah and the person will not get into heaven( that is my paraphrase not theirs). Killing in the Qur’an is not allowed and a person who kills will not get into heaven ( again my paraphrase because I can’t remember what they called it in the book). Jihadu (Holy War) is not about killing others in the name of Allah but rather a striving or bettering of oneself. So all this crap that these psychopaths are purporting to be in the Qur’an is false. People need to understand that this is not about Muslims but rather about blood thirsty psychopaths who just enjoy killing that is all and nothing more.

          • Gino Woods

            The koran, like the bible can be interpeted many ways!! Through history this has been proven many ways. Hitler probably based a lot of his ideas from the bible!!

          • MorristownMom

            But killing your daughter because she wants to wear jeans and make-up and date a Christian boy is ok?

          • jj1954

            And you know this how? I suggest you read about what the actual FACTS are about Islam and the Qu’ran before you continue making your ridiculous comments Greg. From what you say, you obviously know nothing about Islam or what the majority of the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims believe. You’ve probably never even spoken to a Muslim. You’re just contributing to the fear and hate and racism dividing this country and nothing you’ve said is based on the truth. BTW, Canada is bringing single mothers, children and families only into our country, who have been living in refugee camps for years and have already been screened and vetted by the UN. They will be supervised by our governments when they first arrive here. They are the ones who are escaping terrorism. You have a million times more of a chance being attacked by a white home grown Canadian young male terrorist feeling sorry for himself with no job, no purpose and no girlfriend than you do from one of these refugees. The Paris bombers were all French and Belgian, the Syrian passports were fakes. So please stop spreading the hate and if you can’t at least say the truth then don’t say anything. You’re just adding to the proble. I’d rather know these refugees or any of my Muslims than someone with your attitude.

          • MorristownMom

            No, it was determined that it would be ‘discriminatory’ to prevent young single men of fighting age from being brought in as refugees to Canada, and therefore they are being brought in as well. Read Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s memoire Infidel, and then tell me that all Muslims believe in peace and non-violence towards those of us who not believe in their Allah. Watch the documentary ‘Homegrown: The Counter-Terror Delimma’ and explain away how a young Muslim educated at the Islamic boarding school in Ajax, Ontario found himself meeting Samir Khan?
            No one in the Liberal party has yet to justify bringing in thousands of refugees, most of whom do not know English, into Canada when thousands more Canadian workers are losing their jobs in the auto industry and Canadian veterans are sleeping on subway grates in our major cities. Why are THEY not being offered a bed in the barracks that are being refurbished for NON-CANADIANS? Why are families in Vancouver allowed to live and sleep in tent cities on Hastings Street? Why does NO ONE in government see this whole idea of settling 100,000 refugees insanity while far too many Canadians are suffering?
            And why are these refugees NOT fighting for their freedom?

        • Sandcat

          I live in the Middle East. Have done for 8 years. Daesh represents about 20% of the Muslims in the world, to one extent or another. Because they generally follow the example of their rapist warlord prophet.

          • Az

            Ha. Show me where you got that statistic. The Qur’an and Muhammad were a product of its time, as is the Old Testament. ISIS takes everything in there as literal. But the words these actions are based on were written during medieval times, and are indicative of that era. Muhammad’s earliest conquests were messy, and the martial laws that are in the narrations of the Prophet’s rule were reflective of a turbulent and violent period in time. Included in there are beheadings, crucifixions and slavery, which ISIS is using as justification for their current actions against the kuffar (apostates). If they truly wanted to be literal in their faith, shouldn’t they then stop using the trappings of western society in their everyday lives? By participating in society, all people are deemed apostates, so their goal is to isolate in order to appease. But then, are they not “kuffar” by their own definition?

          • Sandcat
        • Bob Geddes

          Good point River. Where are those 1,600,000,000 peaceloving Muslims ? I would like to see a march from them displaying their grief for the murders that are taking place in the world in the name of their supposedly loving peaceful God. Judge a tree by it’s fruit.

          • Gino Woods

            Many marches have taken place!!

          • Michelle

            Muslim marches??? BS!!

        • Gino Woods

          If the Muslims wanted to take over the world it would already have happened!! They outnumber us!! The fact is that the radicals get all the media coverage. Most Muslims are good people!!

        • MorristownMom

          Perhaps it’s time that the 1.6B Muslims rein in or destroy ISIS for giving the rest of them a black eye. So just why hasn’t that been done?

          • River Easton

            In fact, this is being done. The vast majority of soldiers on the ground are Muslim. Also, the people fighting the regime of Assad are Muslim too. Unfortunately there are a lot of conflicting interests and the Syrian and Iraqi ground troops have been decimated, in no small part to do with American aggression in the region. I agree more should be done to stop the threat by other Muslim nations. Turkey needs to stop allowing ISIS oil through the borders. Saudi Arabia must stop their citizens from funding terror. More than anything, an American led coalition must organize and pressure these nations into joining the fight. Not enough people are talking about this though.

        • Michelle

          BS….. read their damb Quaran. The muslims hate people who don’t believe as they do….. we are infidels!!!!

          • jj1954

            Just like so many Christians hate anyone who doesn’t believe in Jesus and live literally by the Bible? As is happening in the US and here in Canada as we speak? You need to read the Qu’ran. You don’t even know how to spell the word! Please look for some love in your heart for these desperate people. ISIS has approx. 50-100K members. That’s less than .0001% of Muslims. I’m more worried about people spewing hate and bigotry like you are, than the rest of the world’s Muslims.

          • Michelle

            You truly are an idiot!!!! These bastard muslims come into OUR Country and demand special treatment!! Now here in Canada they want our swimming pools to have ‘women’ only times!!!!!! Are you kidding me?????? They can all rot in hell….. no sympathy here! ! Canadian people have had enough… we will not let Muslims destroy our Country as they have all over Europe! !! We will rise up as a people and send these ‘things back to where they crawled out of!!!!!!!!

          • jj1954

            Very mature. Wish you follow your own suggestion. Done with you. I don’t waste my time with bigots.

          • fred

            I’m Italian Canadian. I remember how people like you used to treat us. I live in the States now but I’m returning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Pits_riot

          • fred

            Michelle, I remember people like you. So does my family. I’m Italian Canadian. My brothers were teens when this happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Pits_riot

          • jj1954

            You represent everything that Canadians dislike. Glad the majority of us feel the opposite. Hopefully someday your heart will find an opening for a little humanity to get in. It certainly would improve the quality of your life experience.

          • Pygormus

            Wow, you are one demented, nasty, racist bitch.

          • Michelle

            Again.. because some people are stupid……. you cannot be racist against a religion!!! Muzzies come in all colours of the rainbow and I hate every last stinking one of them!!!!! A newly arrived SYRIAN REFUGEE sexually assaulted six young girls at the west Edmonton mall water park last weekend….. I guess you are ok with them doing this….we have enough perverts …we dont need to import the bastards too!!!!!

          • Pygormus

            I suggest you read this:

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/syrian-refugee-west-edmonton-mall-sexual-assault-reaction-racism-1.3973831

            Not that it’s likely to bring about an epiphany in your fevered brain but it might give others pause. Oh, and you’re right; Muslims come in all colours. You’re not racist. You’re a demented, nasty, bigoted bitch.

          • Michelle

            Omg… check Global news… google refugee charged with 6 counts of sexual assault ….. they even named him and said hed been here less than a year

          • Michelle

            Why would that give anyone pause? A newly arrived SYRIAN REFUGEE sexually assaulted six young girls at the west Edmonton mall water park. That says it all. That you could excuse something like that is disgusting and shows what kind of person you really are. We have enough perverts in this Country so why import more?

          • Michelle

            Quaran Qu’ran…. don’t give a crap how it’s spelled… it is a book of evil shit

        • Ezra Pound

          There are those that say ISIS is the real interpretation of Islam, it is quite barbaric , honor killings, acid attacks, gang rapes, and don’t forget, the Muslims are told to lie to non-believers to gain an advantage! Does that sound like God’s work? what a cult!

      • suzie

        saying that ISIS represents Muslims is like saying the KKK represents Christians, or that Hitler’s Nazis represented all of Gremany.

        • Sandcat

          Get informed. Not only are you wrong, your analogy fails on several levels.

          http://winteryknight.com/2015/11/18/what-percentage-of-muslims-approve-of-radical-islam-and-terrorism/

          • jj1954

            Are you kidding??!!! You’re calling this person a reliable source? Say no more. You’ve just explained everything we need to know about you. Really!!

          • Sandcat

            So you have no counter argument?
            Ok.

            btw, he is not the source, Pew Research is. Clearly you didn’t read the article.

          • jj1954

            I choose not to continue a discussion with anyone who gives the site you referenced any credence at all. I presented my feelings, (see my reply to refsareouttolunch) and don’t feel the need to justify them to anyone.

          • Sandcat

            Thing is, feelings are useless when it comes to rational discussion. You don’t like the results of a Pew onion poll because it hurts your feelings?

            Aww, poor widdle snowflake.

            Deal. The world isn’t a liberal arts campus.

        • Fapper

          Honestly apologists ask for polls, then when they receive polls, they refute the polls on some unfounded notion that they’re inaccurate.

          http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

    • Jarrett

      condemn the jihadists thats fine its when you criticize every day muslims theres an issue. If you were to make a comment talking about ISIS ridiculous beliefs thats fine back it up with a statement they have had and your good but when you push a muslim woman into train tracks because she is muslim thats where theres an issue. If you have an issue with burning churches you should have an issue with burning mosques.

      • refsareouttolunch

        Exactly. So why did the head of the Canadian Muslim Association come out with a very strong statement condemning the Mosque attack, but didn’t hear a peep from him in regard to the events In Paris

        • greg major

          Verbal condemnations don’t change anything. It’s been observed in research polls that an alarming amount of Muslims believe the barbaric actions of extremists is OK.

          • Az

            Where are these polls?

          • Zac

            http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/01/nine-things-youll-learn-from-pews-poll-of-the-worlds-muslims/

            The actual PEW Research Report – http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-exec/

            Broken down on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

            The fact that ISIS has said specifically that they have snuck in terrorists and are willing and ready to attack should be enough to not take in ANY refugees.

          • Kate

            Zak – why would you believe anything that they claim? Because they are so honest? I am more than willing to take that chance. I’ve seen enough dead children to last a lifetime. Please don’t contribute to the hate.

          • Zac

            They claim they have snuck into Europe and America posing as refugees, many have already been arrested in the USA and some of the Paris attackers came into Europe posing as refugees with fake passports. This isn’t ‘hate’, this is the unfortunate truth backed by evidence not feel good platitudes.

            Real Muslims need to stand up against this insanity, and I think we really need to realize some people just aren’t compatible with Western society.

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html

          • Renate2459

            Zac is the news source you are quoting factual. And then the next question I ask myself is what are they getting out of reporting this insignificant (if it is true) “fact”? Maybe they are using it to incite fear and divide people. Maybe they are using it because they are a news source with a certain hidden agenda that we know nothing about. What you read should be taken with a big grain of salt. One of the facts Zac is that these terrorists were “homegrown”.

          • Zac

            It’s the Daily Mail which is a respected mainstream publication simply echoing what law enforcement is reporting to them. It’s a news source, this is their job, to get all the facts especially when it comes to major events. I’d also argue that it’s far from an insignificant fact that they abused the refugee system given the resistance there has been all over Europe to this ridiculous wave of refugees flooding small countries like Hungary who are FORCED to take in and care for the refugees

            http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-the-latest-hungary-to-sue-eu-over-refugees-quotas-2015-11

          • Renate2459

            Thanks Zac I’ll check it out – any new angles are always welcome.

          • Anne Doyle

            the Daily Mail is the UK version of the National Enquirer, please do not call them respected…

          • Zac

            What about the Telegraph, is that OK?

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12006892/International-manhunt-underway-after-French-police-let-Paris-attacks-suspect-slip-through-their-fingers.html

            What about AFP, is that OK?

            http://news.yahoo.com/attackers-used-refugee-crisis-slip-france-pm-200055808.html

            The fact remains he came in through the wave of UNCHECKED refugees. Next time I get harassed at the airport for bringing an extra bottle of vodka back from Vegas I’m going to claim I’m a refugee, maybe that will work.

          • jj1954

            Glad glad to see you’re so open minded and objective Zac…..

          • Matt Boyer

            Truth, the new hate speach…

          • James Yuliya

            Isaiah 5:20.. READ it people!! This is THE NEE NORM UNFORTUNATELY!! Evil is good, and good is evil!!

          • James Yuliya

            You and NO ONE else obviously in this forum have any clue about the rapes and violent crime stats committed by ” refugee migrants” in the past year alone in Germany, let alone ALL of Europe!! You Libs are hopelessly clueless!! Mosques need to be SHUT DOWN that teach jihad and most in the west DO!! Look up the PEW research on stats, PEW is the Hold standard!! You will be shocked!! Liberals, please please STOP worrying SO MUCH about looking like your being racist and Islamaphobic and give your heads a good shake!! Do you want Sharia law?? Do you want a Muslim theocracy?? No rights, no capitalism, no freedom, living in fear, no homosexuals, no women’s rights, ect ect… This is what they want!! In America alone over 50% of Muslims agree( even every day Muslims as one person in here put it) want Sharia law!! Damn ppl!! Wake THE HELL UP NOW!!!

          • Jacquie

            ISIS is claiming these things in order to stop Western nations from taking refugees out of fear. If we all backpedal on our plans to assist refugees, ISIS has a much easier time convincing these vulnerable people and (in their minds) all Muslims that we are indeed the enemy, the West is selfish, look at their broken promises, it’s us vs. them, they don’t care what happens to you, etc etc etc

          • Dfghfg Fgdhgfd

            You are very naive.

          • Henry S

            And dangerous because of naivety and ignorance

          • Elelei Guhring

            The problem here is that Islam is engaged in Jihad against the west and no amount of rhetoric or effort on our part will change their minds. We are the enemy. This attempt to appease them by letting them “sort of” conqueror us by living among us will not work. Historically any region that allowed muslims in became a muslim theocracy. Islam was once within Mecca, and it spread in this colonizing manner from Pakistan to Morocco. All we are doing is exacerbating the problem of conflict by bringing it home rather than fighting it abroad. Get ready for Northern Ireland style conflicts all over the world. It’s already starting.

          • QCpourTrump

            Trump has it right, team up with Russia, kill ISIS, establish safe zones in the Middle East and have the saudis pay for it (they’re fucking made of money)

          • James Yuliya

            Well, as ” progressive and tolerant” as Germany and Sweden and France is, you obviously don’t have any CLUE about the stats on violent crimes, RAPES, assaults, murders ect that ARE COMMITTED by these ” peaceful” migrants in these European countries, do you?? Another one in COMPLETE denial of the facts!! This Liberal logic” well if we don’t let violent migrants in, they will become even MORE violent and hate us MORE” is the DUMBEST logic I’ve heard yet for letting these ppl into the west!! They can’t be vetted, and over 70% aren’t even SYRIAN!! Vetting system is ONLY as good as the countries they come from that can provide the information so they can be vetted in the first place!!

          • No Quarter

            We had no “plans”for terrorist refugees, but you already seem to have a bead on islam as they are your enemy unless you are a muztard. islam=death

          • No Quarter

            Who told you that? You are a boob. I don’t give a shit what they think. Why do you act as if we, I,or,us owe these shit bag islamist anything? Where do you get this idea??? I don’t owe them shit!! They will rape and enslave you in a heartbeat.

          • ResponsibleCanadian

            What complete nonsense! The refugees that are being considered for entry have been in camps for years and thoroughly screened.
            Did you even read this article, or just jump straight to the comments section to post your ignorant xenophobic opinion?

          • QCpourTrump

            Yes those are the Harper-vetted refugees. You can be sure the only thing that matters to Trudeau is if those refugees will vote Liberal.

          • ResponsibleCanadian

            More nonsense.
            The Trudeau government has not made any changes to the screening process used by the Harper government, only provided more resources to expedite the process as much as possible.
            And they certainly do not screen for political support.
            You must be one of those conspiracy theory subscribing extremists who would see lowlifes like Trump representing the worst traits of humanity come to power. That lean alone invalidates your comment as one coming from complete ignorance.

          • No Quarter

            canuck I see you are the only one on here who is not “completely ignorant” .
            go figure, you are a muztard

          • No Quarter

            well canuck now you might get to know better what its like as many from USA are walking into (invading) canada. you can have every last one. and FUT.

          • No Quarter

            Maple leaf, I hope they move in next to you!

          • ResponsibleCanadian

            Thank you. We’ve had several move into our community and they are lovely people.
            I would much prefer them as neighbours to ignorant cowards like you – they add real value to my community.

          • Elelei Guhring

            Germany recently admitted that over 60% of refugees taken in 2015 aren’t from Syria, most are from Pakistan and North Africa. They also still have not accounted for over 600,000 refugee men from last year, they have disappeared. Some analysists have noted that organized crime in Germany has recruited them: they have no documentation within Germany and will work for crime syndicates for cheap. Germany is about to see an explosion in organized crime.

          • No Quarter

            zac, there is only ONE KIND OF MUSLIM, one and the same, all are evil. islam=death

          • BiffMalibu

            So does your fake religion, Christianity. Your God murdered almost every man, woman, child, and animal on the planet. Nice imaginary being you worship.

          • No Quarter

            I am not a Christian, yes they too at one time did that. I am a Diest. I practice Deism. Look it up. Then read common Sense. by Thomas Pasine.

          • John Crowe

            Not to promote hate at all just a couple of questions. Why are we so willing to help the refugees who in reality we know nothing about? Some are opening their homes to basically strangers. But I am willing to bet a lot of these who are opening their homes would not even bother to take a homeless person home and give them a hot meal or a warm bed to sleep in? I don’t think it promotes hate to start helping the citizens here first regardless of race or religion. At the very least our government should be willing to fund the single parents, sick children , and homeless with the same amount of funding it is to get the refugees here, let alone feed,educate, and house them. It seems that our governments are turning a blind eye to its many citizens in need here. I guess I have gone on long enough. Just my thoughts.

          • OliviaPope

            I agree with you completely, John. We have so many people in need of basic sustenance and a roof over their heads. Yet, we are ready to spend billions of dollars for these refugees who will most definitely have embedded terrorists slip through the vetting process. That money would be better served helping our own citizens. After San Bernardino, and knowing it could have been stopped if our idiot president hadn’t infected this country with his PC bullcrap, it makes me completely irate. Our DHS had their sights on Sayed Fareek 5 years ago, but they were told to shut it down because the government didn’t want to be seen as profiling. What a load! These people are here to terrorize us! Plain and simple! Keep them out of the Americas!!!!!

          • Keith

            Yours is a misleading argument. Why, in a country like Canada is anyone homeless? Generally speaking there are 2 reasons. Mental illness and substance abuse issues. Both of these make inviting a homeless person into our homes unwise if not dangerous. I agree that this homeless situation can be laid at the feet of successive governments but having said that, that does not mean we should turn our backs on refugees. To underscore my above point, I once brought a former classmate to my home for dinner. I lived alone so I had no alcohol in my home so all I had to offer him in the way of a drink were coffee or soft drinks. After dinner my friend went the the bathroom and later, when he had left, I discovered that he had drank my aftershave. That’s why we don’t invite even homeless people we know into our homes.

          • Elelei Guhring

            Agreed and well said.

          • Lan Sulivan

            John, you’re far from going on too much. I agree with you completely. I always try to help homeless people as much as I can and it breaks my heart the way that Western governments have turned their backs on the needy in the west to favour a lot of people who really don’t like us to the extent where they’ll sponge from our welfare systems (which they will hardly contribute to), rape and kill.
            Any time I see a boat in the Med being picked by a European naval ship, it appears to be over 90% men complaining that they’ve just paid €5,000 to cross the Med, whilst clutching to the latest smart phone (which I couldn’t afford as I pay my bills and taxes).
            They’re laughing at us!!
            Europe and North America now live in peace after two horrific world wars as we had to sort ourselves out. If I had my own way, I’d turn them back and tell them to fight, as our forefathers did, for peace. But, no. They now that they can come to the west and sponge from us and if we, the normal tax payer complain in any way, they pull out the old racist card.
            Since you wrote your post, things changing in Europe. Brexit, Merkel admitting her policy was a mistake, Eastern Europe double fencing their borders, eminent destruction of the jungle in Calais etc Maybe European leaders have realised that normal people are sick off whats going on and changes are now taking place….. I hope!!!!

          • ResponsibleCanadian

            I think you’re talking about two different definitions of “need”. The needs of Canada’s homeless are not the same as those of refugees fleeing a war zone. Not to trivialize the needs of these Canadians, but they already have the most pressing needs of these refugees provided for them: safety and security. Once provided a welcome place in an affluent society, refugees can, and do, provide for themselves – unlike Canada’s homeless. In fact, within months, they help to provide for our domestic homeless through taxes and small businesses that provide employment.
            It has been a year since Canada began accepting Syrian refugees, and we are already seeing proof of what I’ve stated above.

          • No Quarter

            you are a creep!!! You are anti-homeless, you say their needs are met? Really? now who is completely ignorant. FU

          • http://laurelrusswurm.wordpress.com/ Laurel L. Russwurm

            “Why are we so willing to help the refugees who in reality we know nothing about?”

            It’s called humanitarian aid. When there is a fire, or flood, or earthquake in our community, we give humanitarian aid to the survivors… emergency food, clothing etc. Refugees are people fleeing devastation and seeking refuge.

            Not extending humanitarian aid to refugees won’t magically house our homeless or lift Canadian children out of poverty. The two things have nothing to do with each other.

            Canada is a rich country; we could easily afford to properly fund our own marginalized citizens, all we need is the political will to do so.

          • Michelle

            What a naive old fool you are…lol

          • Denise Lictawa

            It’s not the Government it’s the sponsors who pay for them.

          • No Quarter

            Kate, please don’t contribute to our slaughter. I don’t care how many dead children you have seen! Leave the godam children out of it. islam is a political movement that wants to either enslave you or kill you. They will lie, steal, cry wolf, phobia etc. etc. Take some into your home kate and take that chance, DO NOT ask me to take the same chance because you are a coward.

          • Donna Morrison

            If you are right wing bordering on racism and believing in entitlement, Shapiro is your man!

          • Jer71

            Then you had better stay off all winter roads as well .. The fact that you may or could get in a life risking accident should keep you well away from roads and vehicles .. What you are saying makes about as much sense ..

          • Zac

            Sorry, that makes no sense. Whether I use roads or not is my choice and the my responsibility. The responsibility of the government is to keep the borders secure, that’s not really being done if they are letting 1,000 people in a day and not vetting them properly.

          • Keith

            These people are properly vetted.

          • Michelle

            Lol

          • Keith Ruttan

            And why was that funny? Do you believe they were not vetted?

          • Michelle

            Of course they arent vetted properly!! How do you vet someone from a Country thats in disaster? Do you think the Syrian Government sent paperwork and info to Canada?? Most of these Muslims left all their crap when they left Syria. Dont be naive!!!

          • Keith Ruttan

            Well, these people were vetted under the process put in place by the Harper gov’t so we can be sure that any errors made were exclusionary. You appear to be just another hate-filled racist. It has been over a year since they got here. What problems have they caused so far? And, as per my other message to you, what makes you so special that you are able to understand/know things that others do not? Where do your ancestors come from and when did they get here? You write like someone who did graduate from elementary school, but not necessarily high school, so just sit quietly and leave the running of Canada to people who are not so hateful.

          • Michelle

            Curious now what think of your precious muzzies….A newly arrived SYRIAN REFUGEE sexually assaulted six young girls at the west Edmonton mall water park last weekend….. dont you think we already have enough perverts… we dont need to import them also!!!!! This is just the beginning…

          • Keith Ruttan

            Where did you get that story about the sexual assaults at the west Edmonton Mall? I read numerous papers plus watch CTV and CBC news each day and I never heard of such a thing. You need to get a doctor check out your gullibility gland. Better yet, just emigrate to the U.S. so you can live with people as ignorant as yourself…lol

          • Michelle

            You dont give a shit that this pig attacked 6 innocent girls… you are as disgusting as them… Good god i hope you dont have kids… especially girls!!!! you sound like a pedo yourself

          • Keith Ruttan

            And you sound like a racist moron as you do every time you post.

          • Michelle

            Pedophile

          • Keith Ruttan

            I would be careful about throwing accusations like that around. I never at any time said sexual assault on anyone was acceptable. I said I had not heard about this case. Accusations like that are legally actionable. I could sue you for that. Of course, I have never wanted to own a trailer. You have committed slander and you did this just because I disagreed with you. The only defense against slander is proof that your accusation is true. I have called you a moron and stupid and your very words serve as my proof, hence, no slander!

          • Michelle

            Lol… you truly are an idiot! Sue me?? Lmfao…. Anyone who defends a group that worships a PEDOPHILE prophet and excuses a man who sexually assaults little girls must have pedophile feelings.You are a very sick person! As for not seeing or hearing about the sexual assault story , you must not watch the news. This is just the beginning with these filthy perverts coming into Canada with their 7 th century attitude towards woman and girls! That you can defend these pigs is astounding!! You are a disgusting human being

          • Keith Ruttan

            I have no use for any religion, just as I have none for racists such as yourself. I have no use for pedophile priests or other such creeps. People, in this day and age, who insist on believing in imaginary friends are stupid. You appear to be obsessive on the topic of pedos. Such thoughts seem to consume your day. Why is it when people are not as maniacal as you or do not share your beliefs that you become shrill and make unsupportable and vile accusations? I do not think you are disgusting however-just stupid.

          • Michelle

            Oh excuse me for being obsessed with Pedophiles. My Son was molested when he was 10 you piece of shit asshole!! Seeing innocent young girls sexually assaulted by a newly arrived SYRIAN REFUGEE when they were out for a fun night of swimming makes me sick….Like I said before.. we have enough perverts and pedophiles already …why import more of them

          • Keith Ruttan

            I am sorry about your son, but to characterize Muslims or any immigrant group as pedophiles is simply stupid. What was the ethnicity of the guy who attacked your son? In any case, having been a victim does not make you an expert on the subject of immigration or anything else. You are just another bigot.

          • Michelle

            Read up on their culture!! You dont seem to know very much about their customs and how they view western woman. Im done arguing with a half wit

          • Keith Ruttan

            I do know something about Islam, and it’s history is quite like that of Christianity as far as its treatment of women. As far as culture goes, that varies as not all Muslim countries are the same. I can tell by the way you write that you have not had much in the way of education so perhaps it is you who should do some reading. If you do not respond, be assured that I will not miss you. I have noticed that many people who parents were immigrants are quick to complain about the next generation of new-comers. Like PM Harper, I am an “old stock Canadian” (older than Harper by 100 years in fact) and understand that immigrants enrich a nation. Yes, some will be undesirable for whatever reason, but there is no way to weed these people out.

          • Ezra Pound

            Keith she is right, read the Quran or the Hadith, Mo was a pedo, rubbing himself against a six year old when he was 50+. 50% of the Quran is dedicated to killing, assaulting non-believers. It is a pagan Godless cult. Remember Moses and the 10 Commandments. Jesus didn’t break not one, but Mo the Pedo. well he almost broke them all. You do know that he beheaded 800 jews who nursed him back to health. It is of great concern to all the western world. You can tell its satanic because of it’s treatment of women.

          • Keith Ruttan

            I know Mohamed had a 9 year old wife. That does not mean that modern Muslim’s are pedophiles. The very idea is stupid. And, having had a child molested does not make this woman right in her assessment of others. Was it a Muslim who assaulted her kid? I bet it was a Christian. In any case, I have (let me say it again) no use for any religion. None of them. Religion is a crutch for the weak of mind and those too cowardly to accept the reality that we are alone in the universe and when our lives are over, things go dark. Preaching hatred is unacceptable no matter who the target is. Finally-Christians(I was an Anglican until I realized this religion thing was bullshit) have a long history of the mistreatment of other ppl, including women and other Christians whose beliefs deviated in the slightest degree. So-she is not right-because I disagreed with her she decided I was a pedophile-she is an ignorant, uneducated woman who probably lives in a trailer park somewhere in Alberta-and you, for all your protestations of being well-read in religious matters, are running scared, having been misled by Harper and his pet assholes.

          • Michelle

            Lol… sue me?? You are a joke!! Anyone who can defend Muslims and their 7th century ideology towards woman and girls says alot about who you are as a person!! Muslim men have no respect for women or girls. This pervert assaulted 6 girls!!!! This is the beginning of the end for Canada…..you are a disgusting human being!

          • Michelle

            Lmfao

          • Adam Pickles

            Islam isn’t a race you fucking moron. Please don’t breed.

          • Keith Ruttan

            You need to follow the entire post, including all interaction between myself and others on the topic. Of course Islam is not a race-like all religions, (and your own feelings of intellectual adequacy) it is more like a delusion. If you interpret my referring to the person I was communicating with a “racist”, you either did not read everything she wrote of did not understand what was said. She is a racist and you are stupid.
            As for “breeding” I have adult children and they are doing well.

          • Adam Pickles

            “If you interpret my referring to the person I was communicating with a “racist”, you either did not read everything she wrote of did not understand what was said.”

            Quote me her words that defines her as a racist.

          • Sylvie
          • Keith Ruttan

            So you are simply trolling for ppl to whine at. (I read your other posts) I wonder when your ancestors came to Canada? I wonder where they came from and why? I wonder why my ancestors let them in? Conservatism are the politics of both fear and ignorance-I guess the latter breeds the former, come to think about it.

          • Elelei Guhring

            Google it.

          • James Yuliya

            PEW research polls, which is the Global Gold standard !

          • Pygormus

            Did you actually read the PEW report? It doesn’t support your benighted opinions at all. Go crawl back under your rock.

          • Pygormus

            Oh, really? Please provide a pointer to these polls.

          • James Yuliya

            LOok it up!! uou are in denial!! Like France, Sweden, Belgium, Germany..

          • Pygormus

            Well, I’m in good company then which is more than anyone can say about you.

          • No Quarter

            I am sure you are

          • Kathy Huntley

            I am with you. Sadly to many ppl in mostly Canada are Blind to the fact these ppl are here for one reason. To take over us / The World from within !!
            They are going to school for Doctors, Lawyers, Police, all Government jobs mostly. Trudeau is so bind he can’t see they WILL In time run for
            Prime Minister!!
            How I wish Canada had Trump for our PM
            DEAF. DUMB & BLIND OUR NARCISSISTIC SELFIE TAKING PM THINKS LOVE AND SMILES WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS. THE Damn internet IS FULL Of videos in Germany. France. England. Etc showing WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THAT IS DESTROYING The Countries that Welcomed them in with Open Arms.
            Then they yell
            Allah Akbar
            As well as :
            DEATH TO ALL INFIDELS.
            ISLAM WILL RULE THE WORLD.
            YOUTUBE HAS MANY MANY MANY VIDEOS TAKEN BY THE PUBLIC SHOWING MUSLIM MALE PUNKS IN GANGS DESTROYING THE COUNTRY THAT WELCOMED THEM IN
            They want EVERY Country to have one Law and that’s their
            SHARIA LAW !
            Trudeau wants sharia law in Canada & he IS SLOWLY very slowly giving MORE RIGHTS TO MUSLIM REFUGEES Then Canadian ppl have. They get double the $$$ Canadian ppl get on welfare. HOW IS THAT FAIR??? WHY SHOULD THEY GET LIKE $4 GRAND A MONTH. Many live in nice houses. WHO PAID FOR THEM ??
            Ppl of Canada
            WAKE UP
            OPEN YOUR EYES
            SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
            ONLY PPL CONNED BY TRUDEAU ARE LIBERALS. TRUDEAU IS / HAS BRAIN WASHED THE MANY BLIND FOOLS.
            AGAIN PPL.
            GO to YouTube.
            Type in ;
            Muslims in /->
            England. OR France. OR Germany. Or Sweden. Or Detroit.
            Halifax Canada
            Pick one. Better yet. Look at s few different countries You WILL SEE WHAT WE WILL HAVE IN CANADA BY THE SPRING OR SUMMER. NICE WEATHER WILL
            BRING THEM
            OUT TO START DESTROYING OUR Country
            CANADA 🇨🇦🇨🇦
            God Bless the Liberals who think they Are Invincible!!!!
            WAKE UP Lefties. Time to open your eyes &
            STOP THINKING CANADA IS
            INVINCIBLE
            BECAUSE ITS NOT !!!!!
            Trudeau WILL Be The Death of many many Canadians & RAPE ON WOMAN & OUR LITTLE BABY GIRLS – our daughters. Grand Daughters. Even our Sons. If not gone through puberty the male Muslim Raping a young boy does not make him gay cause the boy has No pubic hair and still a boys voice.
            Last words.

            WAKE
            UP
            CANADA
            WAKE
            UP
            CANADIANS!!!!
            we will have a war in Canada due to Justin Trudeau!!
            Ohhh. Last thing.
            I AM 100%
            NOT RACIST !!
            Believe me or not. I do NOT Care !!!
            I AM FOR CANADA & CANADIANS 100% SAFE AT ALL TIMES !
            That islamphobia is just BS that Trudeau put out there to get him
            M 103 Bill in
            Almost a Blasphemy Law
            I could go
            On & on & on
            But that’s all Folks.
            May
            God Bless Us All.

          • Henry S
          • Pygormus

            That’s it? That’s your proof? Ok, that website actually does contain some facts BUT it mixes them up with a whole bunch of half-truths, misleading reports and outright lies. It is anything but an objective source; it is about as anti-Muslim as you can get.

          • No Quarter

            use google and find it yourself you a-hole

          • Kate

            Sorry – I don’t believe you at all.

        • Az

          Just because you haven’t seen it in your news cycle doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, it just means that it wasn’t deemed worthy of the attention. I took the five minutes and googled it: http://www.macnet.ca/English/PressRelease/MAC-Statement-Nov-13-2015-Final.pdf

        • Michael Edward Merriam

          look at their website before you talk shit. http://www.macnet.ca/English/Pages/Home.aspx

        • Elelei Guhring

          Because they sympathize with, support or even helped finance it.

      • gerrymdionne

        Ever stop to wonder how ” peaceful ” moslems have managed to overtake about 50 countries in 1400 years ?? It wasn’t done by asking nicely . Read some history , like the Crusades .

      • QCpourTrump

        Everyday muslim still defend the jihadist ideology, they defend Muhammad, his pedophilia, rapes, sexual slavery and the Quran. They are no better.

      • James Yuliya

        Are the migrants who’ve committed HORRIBLE crimes, rapes, murders, burning cars, robbing trucks in transit ALL ACCROSS EUROPE , are they every day Muslims?? Liberals just deny the facts and call everyone islamaphobes and xenaphobes who don’t want refugees to destroy Canada… You are in denial!!

        • Michelle

          Did you hear about the newly arrived SYRIAN REFUGEE who sexually assaulted six young girls at the west Edmonton mall water park last weekend???? BARBARAC BACKWARDS PIGS!!!

      • No Quarter

        I have no issue with burning mosques. This is where hate is born, preached, and plans for action hatched. islam is a sicko political cult bent on taking over the world. I don’t care about moslems. They do not need come here and when they do they will need to decide if it is a good idea to remain in the psycho cult or free themselves. islam=death

      • Helen Van Wie- Richeal

        Everyday Muslim? Do you mean Islamist? You don’t have to be radical to be a terrorist. Islam is the religion of death & evil.

      • No Quarter

        Jarrett, Fuck you! islam wants to kill me ! One less possible suicide bomber the better. I have massive issues with islam muzzies, muhammedens, moongod and all the unholy crap in the unholy nasty koran. Its an issue everytime some one is raped, killed, enslaved, beheaded, etc. by islam. islam=death. islam is a political movement disguised as a religion. I suggest you read the koran and the hadiths and all their other crap before you speak you moron.

    • rdb787

      Because many Muslims will cut off your head if you say nasty things about them. the Westboro folks will just stand around with some badly made signs.

    • Roger Blythe

      LOL, Most Americans would run the Westboro bunch out of the country if not for the constitutions 1st amendment. and most would run every single muslim out along with them.

      • Michelle

        Yes!!

    • jj1954

      Your example doesn’t work I’m afraid. The phrase radical Islam is something created by fear mongers and bigots. ISIS is not Islamic, they are not living the Qu’ran. They’ve picked a couple of verses, twisted them out of context to support their purpose and justify their evil actions. There are approx. 1.6 million Muslims in the world, perhaps 30,000 ISIS fighters, and you can’t generalize about the entire population of Muslims based on the actions of less then .0001% of them. Just the same as you can’t say all Christians are as crazy as Westboro Baptist, which everyone, including yourself, knows is untrue.

      • Sandcat

        As bill Maher just reported, 18% of the Muslims in ‘moderate’ Indonesia support honor killings.

        Less opinion, more facts.

    • nightowl_8936

      This is part of the cultural Marxist approach to destroying society from within. If you go against their impossible agenda of supposed equality for all groups irrespective of actual facts on the ground, you get tarred and feathered with all kinds of terms to try to label your opinion as unworthy of even being heard, and to try to reduce you to a non-entity.
      Watch for words like, inclusivity, sensitivity, diversity, and tolerance, and you’ll know you’re dealing with one of these kinds of people, who want to try to control words and language and the media to try to control people from seeing muslims or gays or any other minority group in any other way, than how the politically correct people of the world want you to see them.
      They want you to see them as disadvantaged and discriminated against, and its the fault of the larger society, never them or their sometimes absurd demands!

    • Nayo Deen

      i can fix this for you: any religious believer is shit, doesn’t matter if christian, jew, muslim, hindu, buddisth, juju, thor, zeus, anubi or whatever: if you believe in god you are shit… the only acceptable thing for a third millenia person is to be atheist. if not, you are just a fucking primitive bigot savage, no different from those christians who had witch hunt and burned people at stake. also if you are against samesex marriage and adoption, you are shit. it also means that you aren’t capable of living peacefully and in harmony… a person who accepts homosexuality is a person who is compatible with a civil society, a person who uses his/her “sincere held bigot belief” is just the same person who can find any excuse to wreak chaos, and do illegal and violent vile acts… it doesn’t matter if it is a skin color, a hair color, being left handed, or whatever they will always find an excuse to their violent behaviors againts their own citizen… people who are against samesex marriage are people who shouldn’t belong to a civil society, they are doomed to bring despair and sorrow in any community they are in, they claim to protect and defend their own citizen using their “bigot religious values” but in the end they can’t do anything else than harming them… for an happy peacefully society, it is needed a 100% atheist population… the rest of the people on this world can have their happy time playing crusaders, rapture parties, jihad and armageddon and living in pain and tears… while the atheist will just have a cheerful and gay life.

    • Elelei Guhring

      Islamophobia: fear of being raped or murdered by a Muslim.

    • qawii3 .

      You are 100% correct in your observation.Liberals are pro-Islam and Antichrists, ooops, anti christian because of the growing Islamic vote and because of their bigoted secular liberal RELIGION. We are once more witnessing religious persecution by political fascists under Justin Trudeau.

  • Lisa

    This is ridiculous. Saying that they are not a threat is ludicrous. I have watched the influx of refugees coming in through Greece. Believe me, the Aegean Sea in the summer is not “Treacherous” as you claim. It is only a 5 mile trip via boat from Turkey to Lesvos. This time of year it may be more dangerous but it isn’t They puncture their own boats when they see the coast guard, so they can be “rescued”. I saw a video where they interviewed a boy who said just that. Some of them are not even fleeing a war zone but are trying to take advantage of the situation and are just looking for handouts. Like the guy whose family drowned.He was coming to Europe for free dental work. I have also seen the same faces that were shown with AK 47’s in Syria holding isis flags, taking photos on the shores of Lesvos and posting pics as they got to shore. I would love that cell phone plan. They are able to phone home to call their mothers who were left behind? Why leave women behind? They are mostly military aged men who we know are trained fighters. They didn’t stay behind to fight, because they are invading Europe looking to destroy our way of life. The other islamic countries won’t take them because they consider them a threat to their national security, so why should we take them? Get a clue before you write something.

    • bonnieherrett

      Those are the people walking and they will not be walking to North America.

    • William M. Milano

      well said!

    • Anthony

      You probably thought the same thing when Nazis were killing Jews, right? Why not just shut the fuck up?

      • Lisa

        My grandmother survived one of those camps. They didn’t just kill jews, they were trying to kill everyone. Everyone who did not comply with their crazy ideology. To suggest that I would defend the nazis killing Jews is totally off the rails. I don’t condone that sort of thing because I know the stories from someone who actually was there. Someone who suffered, was beaten tortured and starved. Someone who actually smelled the burning bodies and thought they were roasting chickens and saw and touched the falling ashes not knowing they were human remains falling down. Europe is changing and not for the better because some of these sick fucks who think putting on a suicide vest is a calling from God. They are going to make nazi Germany look like a kindergarten camp. They aren’t keeping their plan a secret. They made the announcement and here they come like the plague. So next time you’re trolling and looking to add your 2 cents to someone you don’t know, think before you type or better yet, you can just shut the fuck up!

        • Finklestein Lastname

          Too bad your grandmother survived. You know those Jewish refugees did the same thing you are saying that these refugees do? Posed as if they were somehow persecuted and came here to take our jobs and cause terror attacks? Should not have let them in.

          Youre just a pot calling the kettle black. Your family came here on the good graces of others and now you’re playing the bigot and being a hypocrite.

          Go back to your own country.

          • Lisa

            Too bad you weren’t aborted. My family came here legally and lived by the rules got jobs and became citizens. They weren’t Jewish. They didn’t terrorize anyone! This is my country so go fuck yourself.

          • Finklestein Lastname

            Came after the war “legally”? Yeah right. [sarcasm]I’m sure they applied through the immigrant worker program or something? [/sarcasm] If she was in a camp, she was resettled here as a refugee.

            Are you sure NONE of the people who came here with your grandmother never ever did anything wrong? No one ever committed a crime? None of the refugees did either. They were settled in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan and haven’t done any crimes either.

            This isn’t your country unless you’re First Nations, you are an uber hypocrite and should just go back to where you came from. Your family came here and lived off everyone else and took their jobs and their land, or did they come here with lots of money to invest? (oh wait, they were in a “camp”).

            You have absolutely no humanity in you, you’re just as bad as the ISIS terrorists.

          • Lisa

            Read a history book. We KNOW that the nazi’s ran away and escaped all over the world. We were wealthy until Hitler came. And yes they did have money, money they were using for toilet paper because it was deemed worthless. My grandfather had a job with the Polish military, and worked with the US to help the war effort. So when they came here in the 50’s they did have money. They came legally. They got jobs and didn’t demand handouts. So you couldn’t be more UBER WRONG. I am looking at the situation from a realistic standpoint because isis stated what their intentions are and if you weren’t in a fucking coma, you can see that they are doing what they said they would. You’re the inhumane one here. You are supporting terrorism and trying to terrorize me with your comments. I was voicing my opinion and you chose to make nasty comments on a subject you know nothing about. I was born here, this IS my country. Go fuck yourself.

          • Robert

            A. You seem to have a lot of hatred within yourself which is a shame.
            B. The stated goals of ISIS have nothing to do with the vast majority of the Muslim populace. It’s pretty bigoted thinking to suggest that they do.

          • Lisa

            you are really naive to think they don’t.

          • eleanor elliott

            read their quran of hate for the infidel which is us

          • Renate2459

            You are so misinformed and therefore afraid and it surely is showing here Eleanor. This is what rational minds are having to fight against to allow these people from a devastated country to be able to enter our country and live in peace. I have read the Qur’an and what you claim it to be is just the opposite. Qur’an actually means Peace……

          • eleanor elliott

            please go away you are obviously not with it or ill and deserve help from professionals to keep trying to make people want to agree with you no matter even the ministers of the provinces see the danger and also the usa
            begone crazy person and I wont report you

          • Renate2459

            Eleanor – Wow……………I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed………..Wow

          • eleanor elliott

            right on

          • eleanor elliott

            no you leave the human race whatever you are

      • woxnerw

        What do you do for a living? AND How old are you? AND What do you know about “Nazis were killing Jews” ?

      • disqus-vx9

        wow anthony way to engage in rational discourse with a view you disagree with…but then that is the left wing way shout down your opponents and call them racist.

      • eleanor elliott

        not even a close resemblance to this situation. you are ignorant in more ways than one

    • Robert

      I love how people state supposed “facts” in comments like this though they never show any real basis to back them up. Pray tell Lisa, how do you know as a fact that
      They are mostly military aged men who we know are trained fighters. “?

    • brittany

      Thanks for not only reading this article, but educating yourself as to how our refugee system works exactly the same as it has in Europe, where 700,000 entered this year alone, mainly through a nation so financially strapped that they did not have the ability to even begin processing the throngs of people streaming over their borders. We are planning on just sending over planes, yelling “all aboard!” and watch them frantically clamour to make the cut. We won’t bother consulting the UN to find out who they have completed the most extensive background checks on, we’ll just get a quick look at their passports, and when they arrive in Canada, they’ll all be given welfare for life!
      Saudi Arabia really needs to step up. They have so much money to help fund terrorists, the least they could do is take in some of the refugees fleeing them! The Christian refugees will especially love it there! After all, the Saudis are always looking for more people to torture, behead and imprison to keep their title as one of the worst human rights violators on the planet.

    • humansarestoopid

      you should read what you write. especially the last sentence.

    • eleanor elliott

      you are absolutely correct

  • William M. Milano

    you lost me at Islamophobia….because we fear what we know.

    • greg major

      Islamophobia isn’t real. Having concerns over people who believe in a barbaric medieval book and act out massive acts of terror in the name of that religion, is a pretty rational concern.

      • humansarestoopid

        that would be ISISaphobia

        • eleanor elliott

          grow up and smell the roses, chances are they stink

          • humansarestoopid

            When you write “chances are they stink” do you you mean “chances are if they’re a Muslim they’re a terrorist”? IYO what are the chances? 1in 100? 5 in 10?

          • eleanor elliott

            it means theres trouble In Denmark an old saying, odds are against there not being radicalists in the mix

      • Renate2459

        Kind of like the barbaric, medieval book called the Bible.

      • William M. Milano

        i think we are saying the same thing

  • Anger is an energy

    You don’t want to turn people in need away, and yet as a society including our governments, at all levels, turn our backs on our First Nations peoples. We won’t help the ones that our peoples and governments have nearly destroyed (going on 600 years now), but we should in turn help people who have been destroying themselves for thousands of years. Be real, the problems in the middle east are far outreaching the here and now. The western world needs to stay out of the area because it has been nothing but trouble going back to the crusades and before. The real enemy is money and the all greed of society, to put everyone at risk just to attain more of it, as well as, zealous religious bigotry, claiming that one God and its rules are better than your God and it’s rules. Especially since none of them can agree on which set of rules are true. Even though they all tend to agree that this God is the same for all of them.
    Next time you think about people in need go volunteer at your local homeless shelter or food bank. Maybe then it’s not their backyard you need to worry about but your own front yard.

    • Karen Bonner

      It was only a matter of time before someone cried out “but what about the natives”.

      • Bill Barrett

        Yes Karen and it didn’t take long for someone to go “Oh here we go again” to try and dismiss the issue.

    • brittany

      Helping to lift the First Nations out of the hole we have dug them into over the last 600 years is an important part of our new federal government’s agenda. If Trudeau is not backing down from the promises he made during the election regarding refugees, why are you so sure he’ll go back on the ones he made to the First Nations and the rest of our indigenous peoples?
      Here is Trudeau’s mandate letter for our new Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs, please note that the list of priorities outlined for Carolyn Bennett’s ministry include addressing every one of the issues you are concerned about:

      http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter

      To
      support the work of reconciliation, and continue the necessary process
      of truth telling and healing, work with provinces and territories, and
      with First Nations, the Métis Nation, and Inuit, to implement
      recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, starting
      with the implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
      Develop, in collaboration with the Minister of Justice, and
      supported by the Minister of Status of Women, an approach to, and a
      mandate for, an inquiry into murdered and missing Indigenous women and
      girls in Canada, including the identification of a lead minister.
      Undertake, with advice from the Minister of Justice, in
      full partnership and consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and the
      Métis Nation, a review of laws, policies, and operational practices to
      ensure that the Crown is fully executing its consultation and
      accommodation obligations, in accordance with its constitutional and
      international human rights obligations, including Aboriginal and Treaty
      rights.
      Work with the Minister of Finance to establish a new fiscal
      relationship that lifts the 2% cap on annual funding increases and
      moves towards sufficient, predictable and sustained funding for First
      Nations communities.
      Make significant new investments in First Nations education
      to ensure that First Nations children on reserve receive a quality
      education while respecting the principle of First Nations control of
      First Nations education.
      Work with residential school survivors, First Nations,
      Métis Nation, Inuit communities, provinces, territories, and educators
      to incorporate Aboriginal and treaty rights, residential schools, and
      Indigenous contributions into school curricula.
      Work, on a nation-to-nation basis, with the Métis Nation to
      advance reconciliation and renew the relationship, based on
      cooperation, respect for rights, our international obligations, and a
      commitment to end the status quo.
      Collaborate with the Ministers of Natural Resources,
      Environment and Climate Change and Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian
      Coast Guard to ensure that environmental assessment legislation is
      amended to enhance the consultation, engagement and participatory
      capacity of Indigenous groups in reviewing and monitoring major resource
      development projects.
      Work with the Minister of Health to update and expand the Nutrition North program, in consultation with Northern communities.
      Work with the Minister of Families, Children and Social
      Development to launch consultations with provinces and territories and
      Indigenous Peoples on a National Early Learning and Childcare Framework
      as a first step towards delivering affordable, high-quality, flexible
      and fully inclusive child care.
      Work, in collaboration with the Minister of Infrastructure
      and Communities, and in consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and
      other stakeholders, to improve essential physical infrastructure for
      Indigenous communities including improving housing outcomes for
      Indigenous Peoples.
      Work with the Minister of Status of Women to support the
      Minister of Infrastructure and Communities in ensuring that no one
      fleeing domestic violence is left without a place to turn by growing and
      maintaining Canada’s network of shelters and transition houses.
      Work with the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development
      and Labour and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic
      Development to promote economic development and create jobs for
      Indigenous Peoples. – See more at: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter#sthash.leWVMgPJ.dpuf

      To
      support the work of reconciliation, and continue the necessary process
      of truth telling and healing, work with provinces and territories, and
      with First Nations, the Métis Nation, and Inuit, to implement
      recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, starting
      with the implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
      Develop, in collaboration with the Minister of Justice, and
      supported by the Minister of Status of Women, an approach to, and a
      mandate for, an inquiry into murdered and missing Indigenous women and
      girls in Canada, including the identification of a lead minister.
      Undertake, with advice from the Minister of Justice, in
      full partnership and consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and the
      Métis Nation, a review of laws, policies, and operational practices to
      ensure that the Crown is fully executing its consultation and
      accommodation obligations, in accordance with its constitutional and
      international human rights obligations, including Aboriginal and Treaty
      rights.
      Work with the Minister of Finance to establish a new fiscal
      relationship that lifts the 2% cap on annual funding increases and
      moves towards sufficient, predictable and sustained funding for First
      Nations communities.
      Make significant new investments in First Nations education
      to ensure that First Nations children on reserve receive a quality
      education while respecting the principle of First Nations control of
      First Nations education.
      Work with residential school survivors, First Nations,
      Métis Nation, Inuit communities, provinces, territories, and educators
      to incorporate Aboriginal and treaty rights, residential schools, and
      Indigenous contributions into school curricula.
      Work, on a nation-to-nation basis, with the Métis Nation to
      advance reconciliation and renew the relationship, based on
      cooperation, respect for rights, our international obligations, and a
      commitment to end the status quo.
      Collaborate with the Ministers of Natural Resources,
      Environment and Climate Change and Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian
      Coast Guard to ensure that environmental assessment legislation is
      amended to enhance the consultation, engagement and participatory
      capacity of Indigenous groups in reviewing and monitoring major resource
      development projects.
      Work with the Minister of Health to update and expand the Nutrition North program, in consultation with Northern communities.
      Work with the Minister of Families, Children and Social
      Development to launch consultations with provinces and territories and
      Indigenous Peoples on a National Early Learning and Childcare Framework
      as a first step towards delivering affordable, high-quality, flexible
      and fully inclusive child care.
      Work, in collaboration with the Minister of Infrastructure
      and Communities, and in consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and
      other stakeholders, to improve essential physical infrastructure for
      Indigenous communities including improving housing outcomes for
      Indigenous Peoples.
      Work with the Minister of Status of Women to support the
      Minister of Infrastructure and Communities in ensuring that no one
      fleeing domestic violence is left without a place to turn by growing and
      maintaining Canada’s network of shelters and transition houses.
      Work with the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development
      and Labour and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic
      Development to promote economic development and create jobs for
      Indigenous Peoples. – See more at: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter#sthash.leWVMgPJ.dpuf
      To
      support the work of reconciliation, and continue the necessary process
      of truth telling and healing, work with provinces and territories, and
      with First Nations, the Métis Nation, and Inuit, to implement
      recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, starting
      with the implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
      Develop, in collaboration with the Minister of Justice, and
      supported by the Minister of Status of Women, an approach to, and a
      mandate for, an inquiry into murdered and missing Indigenous women and
      girls in Canada, including the identification of a lead minister.
      Undertake, with advice from the Minister of Justice, in
      full partnership and consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and the
      Métis Nation, a review of laws, policies, and operational practices to
      ensure that the Crown is fully executing its consultation and
      accommodation obligations, in accordance with its constitutional and
      international human rights obligations, including Aboriginal and Treaty
      rights.
      Work with the Minister of Finance to establish a new fiscal
      relationship that lifts the 2% cap on annual funding increases and
      moves towards sufficient, predictable and sustained funding for First
      Nations communities.
      Make significant new investments in First Nations education
      to ensure that First Nations children on reserve receive a quality
      education while respecting the principle of First Nations control of
      First Nations education.
      Work with residential school survivors, First Nations,
      Métis Nation, Inuit communities, provinces, territories, and educators
      to incorporate Aboriginal and treaty rights, residential schools, and
      Indigenous contributions into school curricula.
      Work, on a nation-to-nation basis, with the Métis Nation to
      advance reconciliation and renew the relationship, based on
      cooperation, respect for rights, our international obligations, and a
      commitment to end the status quo.
      Collaborate with the Ministers of Natural Resources,
      Environment and Climate Change and Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian
      Coast Guard to ensure that environmental assessment legislation is
      amended to enhance the consultation, engagement and participatory
      capacity of Indigenous groups in reviewing and monitoring major resource
      development projects.
      Work with the Minister of Health to update and expand the Nutrition North program, in consultation with Northern communities.
      Work with the Minister of Families, Children and Social
      Development to launch consultations with provinces and territories and
      Indigenous Peoples on a National Early Learning and Childcare Framework
      as a first step towards delivering affordable, high-quality, flexible
      and fully inclusive child care.
      Work, in collaboration with the Minister of Infrastructure
      and Communities, and in consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and
      other stakeholders, to improve essential physical infrastructure for
      Indigenous communities including improving housing outcomes for
      Indigenous Peoples.
      Work with the Minister of Status of Women to support the
      Minister of Infrastructure and Communities in ensuring that no one
      fleeing domestic violence is left without a place to turn by growing and
      maintaining Canada’s network of shelters and transition houses.
      Work with the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development
      and Labour and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic
      Development to promote economic development and create jobs for
      Indigenous Peoples. – See more at: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter#sthash.leWVMgPJ.dpuf
      To
      support the work of reconciliation, and continue the necessary process
      of truth telling and healing, work with provinces and territories, and
      with First Nations, the Métis Nation, and Inuit, to implement
      recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, starting
      with the implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
      Develop, in collaboration with the Minister of Justice, and
      supported by the Minister of Status of Women, an approach to, and a
      mandate for, an inquiry into murdered and missing Indigenous women and
      girls in Canada, including the identification of a lead minister.
      Undertake, with advice from the Minister of Justice, in
      full partnership and consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and the
      Métis Nation, a review of laws, policies, and operational practices to
      ensure that the Crown is fully executing its consultation and
      accommodation obligations, in accordance with its constitutional and
      international human rights obligations, including Aboriginal and Treaty
      rights.
      Work with the Minister of Finance to establish a new fiscal
      relationship that lifts the 2% cap on annual funding increases and
      moves towards sufficient, predictable and sustained funding for First
      Nations communities.
      Make significant new investments in First Nations education
      to ensure that First Nations children on reserve receive a quality
      education while respecting the principle of First Nations control of
      First Nations education.
      Work with residential school survivors, First Nations,
      Métis Nation, Inuit communities, provinces, territories, and educators
      to incorporate Aboriginal and treaty rights, residential schools, and
      Indigenous contributions into school curricula.
      Work, on a nation-to-nation basis, with the Métis Nation to
      advance reconciliation and renew the relationship, based on
      cooperation, respect for rights, our international obligations, and a
      commitment to end the status quo.
      Collaborate with the Ministers of Natural Resources,
      Environment and Climate Change and Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian
      Coast Guard to ensure that environmental assessment legislation is
      amended to enhance the consultation, engagement and participatory
      capacity of Indigenous groups in reviewing and monitoring major resource
      development projects.
      Work with the Minister of Health to update and expand the Nutrition North program, in consultation with Northern communities.
      Work with the Minister of Families, Children and Social
      Development to launch consultations with provinces and territories and
      Indigenous Peoples on a National Early Learning and Childcare Framework
      as a first step towards delivering affordable, high-quality, flexible
      and fully inclusive child care.
      Work, in collaboration with the Minister of Infrastructure
      and Communities, and in consultation with First Nations, Inuit, and
      other stakeholders, to improve essential physical infrastructure for
      Indigenous communities including improving housing outcomes for
      Indigenous Peoples.
      Work with the Minister of Status of Women to support the
      Minister of Infrastructure and Communities in ensuring that no one
      fleeing domestic violence is left without a place to turn by growing and
      maintaining Canada’s network of shelters and transition houses.
      Work with the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development
      and Labour and the Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic
      Development to promote economic development and create jobs for
      Indigenous Peoples. – See more at: http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter#sthash.leWVMgPJ.dpuf

    • brittany

      Helping to lift the First Nations out of the hole we have dug them into
      over the last 600 years is an important part of our new federal
      government’s agenda. If Trudeau is not backing down from the promises he
      made during the election regarding refugees, why are you so sure he’ll
      go back on the ones he made to the First Nations and the rest of our
      indigenous peoples?
      Here is Trudeau’s mandate letter for our new
      Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs, please note that the list
      of priorities outlined for Carolyn Bennett’s ministry include addressing
      every one of the issues you are concerned about:

      http://pm.gc.ca/eng/minister-indigenous-and-northern-affairs-mandate-letter

    • barrieboy

      The real enemy is religion. If we want to be a multicultural society and open our borders to massive immigration (which would prove beneficial to all Canadians) we must strive toward true secularism in our own land and vet those wanting to come here based on their willingness to accept a secular society. And for Christ’s sake 😉 spend at least an equal amount to fix our homeless and native issues as we are planning to spend on this refugee crisis.

    • Jacquie

      More than one thing can happen at a time.

  • Sandcat

    This is prima facie nonsense, which should be obvious from the terms being compared: Jews, an ethnic group, with Syrians, a national one. An honest, apples-to-apples comparison would line up German Jews and Syrian Muslims — the relevant ethnic group within the relevant political entity. But do this, and the failure of the analogy becomes clear.

    The first, and most obvious, difference: There was no international conspiracy of German Jews in the 1930s attempting to carry out daily attacks on civilians on several continents. No self-identifying Jews in the early 20th century were randomly massacring European citizens in magazine offices and concert halls, and there was no “Jewish State” establishing sovereignty over tens of thousands of square miles of territory, and publicly slaughtering anyone who opposed its advance. Among Syrian Muslims, there is. The vast majority of Syrian Muslims are not party to these strains of radicalism and violence, but it would be dangerous to suggest that they do not exist, or that our refugee-resettlement program need not take account of them.

    We also need to take into account that the vast majority of Syrians have already found refuge. We’re not taking them from Syria, we’re taking them from other countries, such as Egypt, Jorda, Lebanon, Turkey etc.

    • Robert

      Do you really think an appropriate relocation for these displaced people is in a refugee camp in Turkey or Lebanon? This just in, refugee camps are no place to raise a family, get a job, or live anything remotely resembling a real life. They call them camps because they are meant to be temporary,

      • Sandcat

        There are refugee camps in Sudan and Lebanon that have been in existence for over 15 years. If you really cared about refugee camps, you would be taking about them. You don’t.

        This just in: a large amount of the world is no place to get a job or raise a family. These things aren’t entitlements, they’re privileges.

    • brittany

      The refugee camps in the Middle East are severely underfunded. The UN issued a report about them back in June underlying the dangers for people who are staying there. They are expecting many people to die of hunger and exposure over the winter.

      http://www.unhcr.org/558acbbc6.html

      • Sandcat

        And refugee camps around the world are facing the same conditions. In fact, in what is now known as South Sudan, since the years 2000 there have been camps holding upwards of 2 million people. I don’t recall any public outrage over those camps, or a burning political need to resettle 25000 of them in a month or so to Canada. Why?

        Don’t forget, of the hundreds of thousands of people going to Europe, only a small percentage are actually Syrians. Most are going for the handouts and entitlements. Economic migrants and refugees need to be seperated and dealt with differently. It’s one thing to flee a war zone, quite another to illegally enter a country to suck money out of the taxpayers there.

  • Margaret Stern McJannet

    I remember a boy band from Britian who sang some great songs about all this refugee stuff….here’s just a few lyrics…..I am you….and you are me…..and we are WE….and WE ARE ALLTOGETHER…..AND THEN THERE WAS THIS SONG CALLED ‘……….”””IMAGINE”””’

  • Richard Wright

    The writer is full of crap anyway… 2 of the Paris attackers came in with the refugees only a month ago! They were not all home grown, as she states. Get your facts straight before you try lying to me. People like him are taking the side of these Muslims in hopes that they will spare their useless lives when Jihad is raining down on us. Got news for you dipshit… Your white, your dead! And please quit lying. Look at the riots in Germany & Greece & England… peaceful people my arse. You tell us not to worry.. I tell you your a damn idiot if you don’t worry & don’t prepare. Should get your facts straight & figure out what side your on because these Muslims like dumbass white women… you know the ones responsible for the rapes all across Europe. Yeah, peaceful law abiding bunch. Idiot! Europe will burn & fools like you will be responsible for it because you tie our hands with your damn milk toast solutions.

    • PJ

      You cannot have Islam without Jihad…found in the Koran

      • Renate2459

        Jihad means to Struggle or Strive and that does not mean to have war. It is generally in reference to the persons striving to improve themselves. Holy war is not waged against people but rather ONLY if they are being attacked. It is also written in the Qur’an that if one surrenders then the war is over. Enemies are forgiven and no one is killed out of revenge. It is against Allah to kill anyone………..anyone………that is what is written in the Qur’an. Read it and not the propaganda that you are espousing here. It holds no weight.

    • humansarestoopid

      now my sources dispute what you’ve written. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/16/paris-attack-suspects-what-do-we-know-about-them If you have something to back your “facts” up, please share.

  • Philip Gollon

    It is a simple play in ISIS play book from history. Murder, let ignorance and bigotry follow to create a global war. I see it this way, these acts are of children of refugees, so I see a possible two scenarios. 1, they are raised this way, 2, they are bullied by ignorance and become easy recruits. I see the second scenario combined with young and dumb? Remain calm and educate yourselves and do not let your emotions take the reigns. Start by understanding what ISIS core beliefs are, here is a good read, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063 ISIS or any radical faction performs murders for they know that it will increase recruits from bigotry it has been repeated over and over throughout history. What is so incredibly illogical to me is how history is allowed to keep repeating itself.

  • Nancy Brown

    thank you for this I am devastated by what’s happening in the world and it’s so comforting to know that not everyone has lost their minds <3 to those that have god have mercy on your souls

  • M CLOW

    WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM IN ALBERTA NOW NOT SAYING THEY ARE BAD BUT ABIDE BY THE CANADIAN RULE WE DON’T COVER OUR FACES WE DON’T WEAR TURBANS WE WEAR CAPS TO COVER OUR HEADS.DO AS WE DO AND WE WILL GET ALONG.

    • Rowland Fell

      Don’t wear turbins?? you mean like our minister of defense

  • Kathy

    I would say this link I added is an expert as she is a lawyer for immigrants! She is not just someone writing an article!
    https://www.facebook.com/CTVNewsChannel/videos/990736540987677/

  • Karen Bonner

    It’s funny how in this article its questioned how the “passport” miraculously survived someone blowing himself up, yet the passports found during 9/11 miraculously survived explosions, burning jet fuel and toppling buildings but remained as “proof” that 9/11 was committed by terrorists.

  • Chris

    Why don’t you do some more research and sooth your bleeding heart.. Letting refugees in or immigrants at this point is a complete waste of time and will NOT help them in the long run. Immigration and refugees from these countries will be the ones with education and money .. The ones that if they so choose could help THEIR countrymen. Let them stay put and fix their own problems, we have enough of our own without adding any more.

    Google the gumball video, sit down and become educated as your opinion is just that an opinion and is lacking any evidence to support the idea you have of letting them in is helping.

  • woxnerw

    Health issues lie dormant until something triggers a communicable disease..For example, lets say, Chicken Pox.. Who has ever had Chicken Pox? NO??? You say? Cause you have had a inoculation for Chicken Pox…. You have the antibodies.. Well now Who of these immigrants have had the inoculation for Chicken Pox? OR for any other communicable disease, for that matter?..And you know what? Your Health Records are on file in a Data Bank.. Ottawa knows how healthy you are.. What about these people? If any of this stuff takes hold we are not equipped to deal with any Outbreak of illness.. It’ll be like lockin’ the barn door after all the horses are gone.. A little loss of our civil Rights here… A little loss of our Civil Rights there.. It all adds up.. How much of our rights do we have to give up? Before we have given them all away? We wouldn’t be able to see a Doctor, even if we wanted one SO.. There goes our Health Care that we pay an arm and a leg for.. These people are gonna be “Fast Tracked” through our system and it wouldn’t even cost them a penny.. ..

    • Renate2459

      Woxnerw – Read about Syria – read about the country, about their education, about their vaccinations. This is not a backwards nation with a bunch of illiterate, disease carrying people. Most of these people are well educated, have been inoculated against the typical diseases that all of humanity face. It is funny that you hide behind this fear of disease outbreak as your way of telling these people that they are not welcome in our country, yet there is continuous talk that a great many CANADIANS do not inoculate their children and this poses a risk to you which you do not even mention……..hmmmmmm? Racism………? hmmmm…………….talks like a duck……walks like a duck………..hmmmm?

  • Stan Smith

    The thorough security checks you talk about were put in place by the Conservative Government and it was causing a hold up of refugees. This is exactly what the Liberals and NDP were complaining about. The Trudeau government now wants to speed up to process to allow 25,000 refugees in by the end of december, 6 weeks from now. Yes I am concerned for the security of my country and I am insulted to be called racist because of that.

    • Jdawg Laurence

      Not just the security of our country, but of our children and women. Look at germany and sweden.

  • JRoc

    I stopped reading this article after the first point that was “attempted” to be made:
    “TERRORISTS ARE INFILTRATING EUROPE BY POSING AS REFUGEES”
    To this point alone, it’s actually irrelevant if they were from Belgium, France or wherever else. There are already shown and reported images of (some of) these people being in the IS holding “their state flag”. Do you think 100% of everyone in the IS was born in what is now known as IS? I’ll go ahead and answer, No. The fact is they were a part of the organization, it doesn’t matter if they jumped in their Chevy truck the day before the attack and showed up from Raqqa to cause mayhem. You don’t have to travel from the IS, commit a terrorist attack to be “from ISIS, ISAL, Daesh”, whatever acronym you want to use.

    The second thing in your first point of your article I will comment on is about the fake passport. That’s EXACTLY the point, it was a fake Syrian passport to blend in with the Refugee’s. That’s all I’ll say about that.

    Now let me be clear, I am not going to show “sides” personally in this comment on my views of refugee’s, whether they should be allowed to come or not, or even how the country should go about it, etc. I just wanted to point out some flaws right at the beginning of the article, which lead me to believe there will be many more if I keep reading.

    I agree with a lot of thing being said online, such as blow yourself up and a passport is hanging around, seems weird, yes. Actually, to that point. People not from a particular place will go around with the passports on them. Think of yourself travelling, whether you’re bombing people or not. You NEED your passport on you to jump borders; it’s how the world works. So the weird part is NOT these people having their passports, the weird part is blowing yourself up and your passport is just sitting there still legible.

    Anyways, this article shouldn’t sway anyone’s opinion because based on these inconsistencies you show in the beginning of the article, you are obviously someone that thinks the borders should be opened up for the refugees, and that’s fine, your opinion. But just by reading the first point of the article you can simply tell you’re one of “those” that is defending them with false information to make it seem like things reported aren’t the way some things really are.

    I could type on this topic all day, and I look at both sides of the coin. I won’t reply to any (possible comments) because I could rebut and argue till I’m blue in the face. There are just way too many people that have the mentality to make their arguments based on shared pictures with big white letters written on top. That’s how they make their points. And it’s those people that argue with you with their holster full of headlines they shared, not having a clue to the legitimacy of them, but instead assuming that my friend shared it, it’s on the internet, it is definitely true.

    An example of that before I go. When they reported the areas that France bombed, one being a “hospital”. Everyone immediately started a hashtag #PrayForSyria and were enraged that civilians are obviously dead. All we can still say is there are ZERO dead as reported, that’s all we can go on, but people see hospital and all they see is red. There is a guy in Syria who reports EVERYTHING, his two buddy’s just got beheaded as he was caught (activist), but this guy is still going strong and he, to this day, says no civilian casualties.

    Regardless of that point, people don’t actually have a damn clue that it was an “ISIS hospital” for the injured ISIS members. You still wanna pray for them? I don’t, make the place a parking lot. But people being idiotic and uneducated, click a share button because the word hospital was mentioned. I did a lot of researched on those countries over there, how they operate, etc. Personally, I don’t share a single thing on social media, but people are so quick to hit a share button based on the title of whatever article, from whatever website because they’re good buddy shared it.

    Anyways, I’m done. Believe what you want to believe people. If you want the refugee’s to stay in the Middle East, then vent your displeasure. If you want to take the axe to the border, vent your hope for helping these people. We don’t live in a sand pit like the Middle East and we can holler at the top of your lungs what our views are in this democratic world in the West.

    Adios y’all, I hope you all stop reading after the first paragraph too!

    • retiti

      You do know that those photos you are talking about are fake, yes?

  • Laura Erfle

    Quoted from Christopher Allard:

    I don’t typically go on rants or express my political beliefs here, but I just have to get this off my mind. As some of you know, I’m active duty Army. Aside from that, I am a medic. I’ve spent 3 years of my life overseas in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I’ve seen some pretty atrocious sites caused by war, from both sides. I’ve picked up blown up body parts of friends and I’ve saved the lives of guys who were trying to kill me and my guys right before I was keeping them from their 72 virgins or whatever they believe awaits them on the other side. Here is an unbiased truthful view to the Syrian refugee situation. My first deployment to Iraq, in 2006, my unit voluntarily ran a childrens burn clinic outside of the FOB. It was a constant target for attacks. You would think that people wouldn’t shoot mortars or rockets at their own children, but you would be wrong. We saw hundreds of children, from infants to 18 year olds. The overwhelming majority of the kids we saw (90% or better) were clear cases of abuse. These parents were literally dunking their kids in boiling water, or throwing hot chai at their kids faces… Yes, we’re talking about babies, toddlers, kids not even old enough to understand why their parents would do these things to them. HUNDREDS of kids… We saw quite a few of these kids that were sexually abused, both girls and boys. Their parents acted if nothing was wrong with this, even when confronted by our doctors. This is the mentality of their society, not the viewpoint of a few individuals… these beliefs have been accepted to the vast majority of these people. Many were educated, well dressed, well spoken men, but yet, they still raped their own children, and kept chai boys (if you don’t know what that means, google it.) During that deployment, we also captured the 3rd largest EFP cache that had ever been captured. There were hundreds of copper plates, homemade explosives, fake curbs to house the EFP’s, hundreds of mortars and rockets and howitzer rounds, even an anti-aircraft gun. All of these things came from one place, Syria. Almost every single IED or EFP we found or hit could be traced back to Syria… A lot of the terrorists we captured were from SYRIA… Imagine that. Fast forward a couple years, and I find myself in Helmand Province, in Afghanistan… We had a group of Afghani’s that were paid to help guard our little mud hut in the middle of an Afghan village (I wasn’t on a fob) These guys also kept a “chai boy” A boy, about 11 years old, who was there to serve these guys sexually. We heard him being sexually assaulted many times, but there was nothing we could do about it. We asked the police, the Afghan Army, and we were told the same thing every time…. it’s their culture, and accepted as the norm…. Once again, we captured Syrian made explosives, weapons, and other items… We found Syrian passports during raids… And people out there want us to let these people into the US, with our kids, and near our wives. Near our schools, near our churches, synogogues, malls. Places where we should never have to fear being blown up, shot, kidnapped and tortured… Don’t forget what they did to the Egyptian Coptic Christians, or the Jordanian pilot… Don’t forget about what they do to rape victims! They stone these women to death for being raped! They behead their own people. Do you think they will show mercy to you? Look at the rape statistics in Denmark, Sweden, Belgium. Facts don’t lie… 97% of rapes committed in Sweden were committed by Muslim immigrants… And you want 10,000 of these people here? Even if just 1% of these so called “refugees” were ISIS supporters or active ISIS terrorists, would that be acceptable to you? I want people to understand that I am not condemning Islam and I’m not condemning Muslims whatsoever. I know a lot of really good Muslims. Many of them I would trust over Christians that I know. What I am condemning is the potential for a terrorist attack right here on our own soil. And if the only way to prevent that from happening is by not allowing any potential terrorists into the country then that’s just what we’ll have to accept. These are only my opinions. They don’t reflect opinions of my employer or anybody else for that matter. I’m just giving my experience. I know that potentially out of 10000 people only 10 will be bad people but I would rather have those 10 people not be here then the 10,000 here and those 10 people to be among them. I also think that it’s terrible that the 75 to 85% of their population that has been caught up in this mix gets a bad rap for it. I’m not sure what the answer is for the region. I’m not sure that there is even going to ever be an answer. But I know that it should not be spread into other places. The only way to stop a fire is to isolated so it doesn’t spread elsewhere. I think maybe the solution is enabling the 75 to 85% that don’t condone the actions of the few.
    Chew on it… think about it. Take a good look at your kids or your wife and decide if the risk is worth taking. Feel free to share this if you want.

    • Ezra Pound

      Frightening

  • Luis E. Garcia

    I couldn’t finish reading your piece, I’m sorry, but I just finished eating and thought I was about to vomit.!
    Np muslim refugees ever did any damage in the US!.. How about those two muslim terrorists at the Boston Marathon. I know that arguing with Zealots like you is a waste of time. But you have crossed the line!!. At this stage of the game, after everything that has happened, you are either astonishing stupid or you are a very dangerous individual. And you don’t sound stupid!!. Do you think you will instill shame or guilt into anyone reading you column after watching the beheading, no “hacking of christian and other non muslims innocent. Tell that to the parents of that beautiful 22 year old California girl shot in the head and killed like a swine. No there weren”t muslims the savages that perpetrated that massacre as well as countless others, You are an imbecil and after conveniently”giving up” on those who don’t agree with your sick rhetoric you move on to recruit some more idiots like yoursel. Please move to Syria, you’ll be happier with your brothers and sisters, And don’t forget to prepare yourself bringing condoms and lube for when your time comes!!

  • John jonesbone

    Fukin muzzys

  • Mindyourown

    Maybe it’s who’s behind isis and who’s trying to put the blame on all the Muslim so everyone will hate them .. ever think it could be the …… government !? Isis is probly getting paid by them .. think outside the box people .. all these attacks are planned .. these people need help and need to get away from this war. We need to help these innocent people. There human like u and me and there NOT bad people

  • patricia stephenson

    Toula ….first I have to thank you for a very well written article….well done !!! …..I agree with all the points you have made…..I will share your article with pleasure…..Thank you for taking the time and compassion to share this

  • Joy-Lynn Simpson-Kenney

    I was curious as I have been studying this with a group of friends. To find out your sources on the Canadian Agencies still having a hand in the security screening process. To my knowledge there was a statement made earlier this week that Canada was waving the security screening and going with what ever the UN decides. Sorry my trust of the UN’s process is a little unsure of these days. I definitely want to see the victims most effected by this war helped but 25,000 this quickly, we can’t even set up the infrastructure to support this properly. I have worked with victims of war(mainly children) and you don’t help them just by moving them to a ‘safe’ country. There needs to be those who can speak the language(interpreters), counselors, maintained housing/schools, and most important creating a secure or safe place to be. If you don’t make sure to have something to support those coming in for at least the next 3-4 years what you do is create a weak foundation which as time goes on collapses. It will take years in most of these refuges lives to feel safe or secure and any change would be dangerous as it could undo all the work being put forth to help these Refugees move forward in their lives.

  • Wendy Wander

    silly people

  • EddyCutz

    The sooner people realize this is a RICH VS POOR thing the sooner we can start rooting out the evil. In the end it’s all about MONEY. The rich want us to fight each other. We sit here all high and mighty acting like we know the truth, but we’re all being fooled into another war. The average person has NO idea of what the truth is. War=money for the rich. It’s really that simple in the end. These people are VICTIMS of their circumstances and we act like they should ALL pay for what a few have done.

  • James Smid

    Why worry about another countries problem. We have our own homeless issues that need to be taken care of first

  • Jacqueline Mokrzewski

    This is an extremely well written article. Thank you. I’m sorry that the comments are not quite as inspiring…

  • Jacqueline Mokrzewski

    Extremely well written. Thank you.

  • Barbara Birban

    the terrorism threat doesn’t raise my concerns as much as the fact that we are bringing in 25000 people that will be financially taken care of for l year (as stated in your article) after that what? the middle class will be taxed to support their education, plus all their living needs? What about the people here that already in need, the homeless and jobless? We already are neglecting these citizens. Give your heads a shake and if you feel so strongly about bringing in 25000 then put your money where your mouth is and you pay to have them here, Well see how quickly your mind will be changed if you will have to pay to support them out of your pocket.

    • Donna Chambers

      If you read the article, most of them are sponsored and will not be on the public dole.

    • Renate2459

      Barbara – a great many of these refugees are being sponsored by individuals and social groups like churches etc. and as such they do not receive ANY financial assistance from the government.

  • Michael Williams

    at most or at best all this bs just shows us that we are only one species, the primal urges to kill all that are different now offend us, that is a good step towards understanding the point we are one species and we are evolving as a species, in this evolutionary step in history the transfer of energy from fire to electricity is vital for our species for the next 1.5 million years or so, yes there will be growing pains, mistakes, fear, desperate petty people holding on to ancient and outdated concepts, change is scary and for those unwilling to except this evolutionary step they will stop at nothing to prevent it. So what we do now will forever impact the universe , not just our planet or solar system. think beyond the microscopic average 70 years you live here in this time but think of the generation of grandchildren your 10 year old child will have and the 1.5 million years it took just to get to this point. What fundamental values will we leave them as a social culture , we except the various differences of our species or that you kill anything that is different, what will you teach them, what will the legacy of our species be. Are you a hunter-gatherer, or an intellect , as a species have you evolved or have your weapons of death just improved.

  • Nikon_700

    I would like to know how many of these people Toula Drimonisn will be hosting in her home over the bitterly cold winter here in Canada? I think we should be very careful when screening the 25,000 migrants, read this quote

    “Turkish police also detained eight suspected ISIL members who were
    allegedly planning to travel to Europe posing as refugees, the country’s
    state media reported on Wednesday.”

    Full story http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/turkish-army-killed-isil-member-syria-border-151118135750705.html

  • dc3gal

    What a great read and thank you Toula Drimonis for writing it! Just so spot on!

    • 69f100

      Part of the basis for her “great read” was that no one came over with the refugees and reliable sources say otherwise. There was a severed finger found and the prints match someones prints that came through Greece 2 months ago.

  • Barbara Birban

    donna reread the article the sponsorship is for 1 year

  • Jalive

    Toula makes a lot of unsubstantiated statements. You are an expert on Muslim immigrants because…?

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  • Deep Thinker

    BULLSHIT – the Tsarnev brothers – you know, the Boston Marathon bombers – were refugees. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/details-emerge-on-suspected-boston-bombers/2013/04/19/ef2c2566-a8e4-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_story.html

  • Deanna Joy Sabourin

    I don’t care what anyone thinks, or says, letting these refugees into Canada is a huge mistake, and could turn into a catastrophy. Looking after our own is a hell of a lot more important than accepting 25000 people we do not know, and I, for one, DO NOT TRUST. And to the person who said “he does not want to be part of a country who turns people away”, and what if you end up holding a dead child in your arms because it was a daycare, or a mall, or maybe even a park, or rink. Let’s hope and pray that never happens.

  • snacks1018

    I love how it’s ok for us, Canada as a nation to bomb Isis in Syria but not be responsible for the aftermath of our actions. We have wreaked havoc on the people of that nation and now as those poor people flee in fear of losing more then already have you ignorant bastards try defend your pathetic opinions with “what if’s” . We are all immigrants of Canada, what makes you better then the next? I say take them all in show them the true meaning of Canada show them why we are a proud, strong and free nation. Show them we don’t and won’t live in fear.

  • Teresa

    The only concern I have is that some will not be medically cleared, There are medical reports form Greece and Germany that TB and other illnesses that have not been around for quite a while are resurfacing strongly.

  • Daveen Adams

    Fun fact Ottawa, 9/11, France attacks were all caused by the same people who needed a reason to go kill some fake terrorists, yeeeeee haawwww follow the media we gone find ourselves some insurgents, if we can’t then we gone make them right the fuck up- ya see we made all these bombs and weapons and were goddamn gunna use em

  • Splash

    Here’s what we can say for sure. Every single one, including our loan wolves, were Muslim. Increasing our Muslim population with 25,000 poor refugees increases the number of potential people to be radicalised.

    Also, I wouldn’t trust anything from a group called “Canadian Council for Refugees” just like I wouldn’t trust any info from a group called “Canadian Council against refugees”. Get real.

  • christel price

    I think you have stated everything so well and I also want to help the refugees,
    what you have not addressed is the fact of where and what infrastructure do we have to support them, you say that most of them are sponsored and this is great except for the fact that after 1-2 years these people will also become needing employment, homes and so on. Have you checked out just how many people are homeless ,how many food banks we already have (more everyday) how many charities are begging for help?. I don’t know the answer and I certainly want a better world for these refugees. I am in touch with relatives in Europe and hear first hand what chaos, violence and discord is going on. The government talks about bringing in these many refugees and the amount of money they are willing to spend, But what about AFTER the initial getting them here? do you honestly think people who have paid into the system will like it much when support is higher for the refugees than for them? and what about the jobs, we do not have employment enough for the local people ‘ this is a stalemate situation, with the end result of having the refugees here and welcomed or not ,it will bring problems that will accelerate.

  • Joshua Shepherd

    How about we take care of our veterans and homeless and families in need in our own country and then focus on “refugees” I’m sick to my stomach as I personally got asked to remove my poppy while on the bus because it “offended” this so called person … After explaining what the poppy represents not only my family members and good friends that served our country as well as the ones who paid the ultimate price and their families and if that offends you then you can pack your bags and go back to wherever you came from , I was then told that they have the right to live in this country and then I said no sir I have the right to live in this country ( born and raised ) you are privileged to live in this great country because of the men and women this poppy represents ! This kind of stuff is happening more and more and it needs to stop . I am not racsist by any means but how can you stand by and allow our own people become minority’s in their own country of birth ????

  • Sue

    I have a problem in the midst of an election Trudeau grandstanded and then promised 25,000 before the end of the year. Not a clue as to the logistics of such an undertaking nor at this point would hehave had access to intel that Harper would have for the area. The procedures for making sure we are choosing the most vulnerable and screen them completely. Nothing should be shortcut or left to chance. We have health to check out and identity and it is crucial. If vetting is done in Canada, in means it was not completed in Syria/Jordan camps. The problem with bringing them here and if by chance we have a person who is dangerous to our country it is very hard to deport. Then we have tracking of said individuals. This is process is complex and needs to be followed to the letter, for everyone’s’ sake. Fast tracking was not necessary as the people were safe and it could have been done in a proper time period to ensure all i’s were dotted and t’s crossed. This gov’t has been completely mum on what , how and who they are bringing, we just knew when. That lack of communication is not helpful when many have legit questions. Don’t be rude and call people with concerns, racist, bigot, fear mongering, enough with trying to silence voices , we have a right to know and we will keep at this gov’t for answers. The gov’t has made an oath to Canada and it’s citizens for Canada first and no apologies for that …let this gov’t honour the oath and due diligence with the refugees.

  • Derrick Curtis Steeves

    I like how people identify only “two homegrown lone wolves” but conveniently forget about the terrorists who plotted to blow up a VIA train (Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser), or some of the members of the Toronto-18 (just to name two other examples). We have the luxury of the Atlantic Ocean between Europe and Canada that ensures people aren’t just walking into Canada (though several refugee claimants were just apprehended trying to get into the US via Mexico). I think it’s naive to state it’s not true about “some terrorists infiltrating Europe posing as refugees”. That doesn’t mean they’ll get into Canada, but there most certainly are some getting into Europe…D’

  • Canuck

    Is it it just me is it obviously absurd for people to keep pointing out that the perpetrators of most terrorist acts were “nationals” and not refugees? What does that tell you? It just tells you that consequences of Islamic migration already span generations. Or do you think that the ‘homegrown French Nationals’ who blow stuff up were Buddhists of Guatemalan extraction?

  • taxxed

    Nicely written. You still can’t blame people for not wanting them. You can stigmatize people who want to be safe all you want, just like they stigmatize refugees. Trudeau is irresponsible with how he has handled it, perhaps he should give the public detailed details. His own immigration people are telling him its too many too fast for them. So that makes him an idiot.

  • v65magnafan

    “You can go to the Syrian government today and say to them, ‘I need a
    piece of paper that says I’m Tony Caterpillar.’ And they give it to
    you,” he said.

    “These are not forged documents. These are written
    out by a government employee who needs money, whose family has no
    food.”–a leader of NY’s Syrian Community, Aarafat “Ralph” Succar.
    NYPost

  • Kris Mccleery

    All I know is that if I had to flee my country on foot with my family , I would hope with all my soul that someone out there would be kind enough to take us in …

  • A_voice_for_reason

    Personally, I am not concerned about the terrorism aspect so much as I am the massive influx of immigrants (regardless of their religion or where they are from) and the weight this move will put on already strained social services and programs.

    We’re going to pay for 25,000 people to come here, when we’re cutting physician and health care services? We’re adding more students to the classroom in the form of refugees’ children, yet the teachers are causing a stink with the amount of kids they have at present.

    Yes one may be federal and one may be provincial but where do you think these folks will be settled? That’s right…Ontario and Quebec.

    I’m not saying that we should close our doors…I’m just concerned about the overall impact to our country of forcing 25,000 – who have potentially limited job skills, limited language skills and will take time to get up and running and contributing to the system – into Canada.

    Who will end up paying for this? My pocket is already stretched thin by the government and while I want to help I have a family I need to feed also.

  • Shawn Peers

    The inconsistent information has been a big problem for many on this issue, particularly as it relates to the goal of 25,000 refugees by the end of the year. Some have suggested this is doable. However, many of those that have suggested this (not all) do seem to have some political links to either the Liberal party or to existing refugee organizations. In a world where too much information (not always accurate information) has jaded us all, it is easy to question whether they are jumping onto the “we can do it” bandwagon out of their own self interest.

    The bottom line is that we do need to bring these refugees in. It is naive to think terrorist groups would not consider using the crisis as a way to sneak in some terrorists. However, it is also naive to think we will be safer by closing our borders, allowing refugees to languish in camps where they present as a pool of potential recruits for terrorist groups, perhaps resulting in MORE terrorists and thinking they will not get past our “closed” borders.

    Do not be married to the timeline Trudeau established. But bring them here as quickly as possible!

  • Political_One

    Here is some SCIENTIFIC research for you.
    ”We discuss two ways in which refugee flows can lead to transnational terrorism: how conditions in camps contribute to the radicalization of refugees; and how poorly host states treat refugees. We then conduct empirical tests using data on worldwide international refugee flows and transnational terrorism.”
    http://www.michael-findley.com/radicalism-of-the-hopeless-refugee-flows-and-transnational-terrorism.html

  • Political_One

    Furthermore, ask yourself if Islam is compatible with western democray

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..

    Here’s how it works:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

    United States — Muslim 0..6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    >From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic
    standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.
    They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

    This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslims 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
    The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
    In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.
    Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law.
    The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities.. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.
    Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers.
    Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

  • Political_One

    and finally….
    IF WE COULD JUST FIGURE OUT WHO’S CAUSING THE PROBLEM??
    >>>
    >>> Let’s see, do I understand this thing correctly?
    >>>
    >>> The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    >>> The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    >>> The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
    >>> The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    >>> The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
    >>> The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    >>> The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    >>> The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    >>> The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    >>> The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    >>> The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    >>> The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    >>> The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    >>> The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims’
    >>>
    >>> Think of it:
    >>>
    >>> Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    >>> Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    >>> Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    >>> Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
    >>> Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
    >>> Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
    >>> Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
    >>> Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    >>> Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    >>> Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    >>> Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    >>> Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
    >>> Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
    >>> Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    >>> Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    >>> Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    >>> Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    >>> Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
    >>> Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> *********WHEREAS**************
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    >>> Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    >>> MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM
    >>>
    >>> **********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************
    >>>
    >>> They’re not happy in Gaza
    >>> They’re not happy in Egypt
    >>> They’re not happy in Libya
    >>> They’re not happy in Morocco
    >>> They’re not happy in Iran
    >>> They’re not happy in Iraq
    >>> They’re not happy in Yemen
    >>> They’re not happy in Afghanistan
    >>> They’re not happy in Pakistan
    >>> They’re not happy in Syria
    >>> They’re not happy in Lebanon
    >>> They’re not happy in Nigeria
    >>> They’re not happy in Kenya
    >>> They’re not happy in Sudan
    >>>
    >>> ******** So, where are they happy? **********
    >>>
    >>> They’re happy in Australia
    >>> They’re happy in England
    >>> They’re happy in Belgium
    >>> They’re happy in France
    >>> They’re happy in Italy
    >>> They’re happy in Germany
    >>> They’re happy in Sweden
    >>> They’re happy in the USA & Canada
    >>> They’re happy in Norway & India
    >>>
    >>> They’re happy in almost every country that is
    >>> not Islamic!
    >>>
    >>> And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not
    >>> themselves…
    >>>
    >>> THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
    >>>
    >>> And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like
    >>> the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally
    >>> they will get hammered !!!!
    >>>
    >>> Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
    >>> ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    >>> AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
    >>>
    >>> I’m sorry, I’m completely stumped……
    >>> Any idea who’s causing the problem??

  • Torry Tru

    It’s not the people we should be fearing. And philisophicaly speaking, it’s not people we should be defending ourselves against. The real threat is ideology. We have to remember that an ideology is what has caused a refugee situation. Ideology doesn’t need a passport, can’t be screened and takes mere seconds to travel from Syria to New York or Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton. That being said, I find a terrorist would be hard pressed to endure that kind of a journey with a boat load of refugees who blame him for being there. It’s a fact that most of the Paris attackers were nationalists.Terror relies on surprise. The best way to surprise is to create a diversion. We’re sitting here, debating about refugees, and in the time it has taken me to type this out, an ideal has traveled half way across the globe and planted itself in the mind of someone I could’ve gone to school with. The best way to fight terrorism is to stick with what has made our Country so amazing, to find the resolve to remain the people that make our country what it is. To stay firm with our ideals, and be smart. Ideals don’t have borders, people.

  • Rachel Bulmer

    Definition of a fact: a thing that is indisputably the case.
    Therefore none of what anyone is saying is a fact because everyone can dispute it. Put your energy into asking for a source that speaks only facts and not rumours. If the news article says “according to” then they are not taking responsibility for what is being said. According to so and so the finger, the passport, the person….. Tim Horton’s Coffee is really good, according to my friend who drinks them everyday. I think they are shit, according to me. I just want facts. I have a family in immigration and I have friends that are immigrants and I know it is like applying for the toughest job you have ever had to apply for. With additional medical and security clearances to boot. Sometimes you just have to trust that specialized people are doing a better job than you can, so you stand by and support their decision. I don’t know how to build a house. But I am going to trust that the person that has built more houses than I have is going to do a better job. I am soooo for letting in refugees. I love culture. I appreciate other people and their religions. And my understanding is that HUMANS are to blame for terrorism. Humans that are organized into certain groups. And I hope that we can somehow take their power to harm away from them. Instead of increasing our hate for certain religions. I think that the gods or high powers or whatever we want to call them of a religion is saying I didn’t fucking say that or tell them to do that. They are mentally unstable people using their human abilities and harming people. That’s my uneducated opinion. Watch a movie about refugees. Imagine you were a refugee and everyone closed the door on you. And my opinions are not facts, they can be disputed.

  • Rachel Bulmer

    Does anyone have Muslim friends? That can stand up for knowing them as a person and not a Muslim?………
    You can’t paint everyone with the same brush.

  • http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/ Bill Woollam

    Probably two of the most intriguing and revealing presentations I have ever come across

    A global act of false flag terror – Norway terror op is exposed

    Reflections And Warnings – An Interview With Aaron Russo {Full Film}

  • http://www.blissful-wisdom.com/ Bill Woollam

    If my hyperlinks weren’t allowed here are two of the most intriguing and revealing presentations I have ever come across.
    Just do a Youtube search on the following titles:

    1) A global act of false flag terror – on tour: Ole Dammegard
    or hear this insider tell it all:

    2) Reflections And Warnings – An Interview With Aaron Russo {Full Film}

  • Ken Hawkins

    I completely agree that a lot of hate and angst has been generated. However, this author’s misleading statements go too far in the other direction and leave us all exposed, just as the terrorists would like. And there are some logical inconsistencies in what she wrote.

    She goes into detail about having to endure xrays, taking our shoes off, questionning, etc. at the airport, and then says that doesn’t work well because “deep down inside we know that no security or safety check in the world can predict or prevent a crazed fanatic or raging madman from entering a room full of people and blowing himself up”. Apples and oranges! What does airport security (which works rather well) have to do with blowing himself up in a room full of people!?

    Once a certain terrorist technique can be identified – either by anticipating it or experiencing it – measures can be put in place to prevent or lessen the probability of it happening again. If that doesn’t make sense, what does?

    She says “It is not likely that a person intending to commit a violent act would expose themselves to such detailed examinations.” Are you kidding me? The 9/11 hijackers trained
    for years on U.S. soil, patiently waiting for the big day. Do you think fingerprinting and some
    interviews by security officials would have deterred them? There is no Syrian database or national security team that can identify which “refugees” are actually terrorists. So these “interviews” are all we have to go on. Any chance these terrorists are good liars?

    She’s right that there is no way to get the risk down to zero, but that shouldn’t stop us from getting as close as possible. The chances of me getting struck by lightning when I’m playing golf are pretty close to zero, I’d be pretty stupid to play in a lightning storm, waving my golf club over my head.

    My heart bleeds for the legitimate refugees, but ISIS is not stupid. This is a golden opportunity for them. The smart thing for them to do is sneak hundreds – even thousands – of radicals into western countries, masquerading as poor refugees trying to escape oppression, while hidden among millions of legitimate refugees.

    Here’s a question for anyone who thinks those refugees should be welcomed in: Are you secure enough in your belief that you would open the doors of your own home to them?

    I love the statement by refsareouttolunch : “When I lock my door at night. It isn’t
    because I hate those on the outside, It is because I love the ones on the inside.”

    There is a humanitarian solution being proposed: Set up cities or areas in their own country
    as sanctuaries, where the refugees could live and which would be protected by
    western forces. It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s better than letting thousands of terrorists in who are all determined to blow us up.

    I read that there have been over 9 million people who have left Syria so far.
    If only 1 in 1000 is a terrorist, that means 9,000 are on their way, intending
    to kill you and me and everyone we love.

    (Just a reminder: It only took 10 terrorists to fly two jets into the World
    Trade Center, killing 2600 people. Do the math: 9,000 divided by 10 means 900
    similar events could be possible, killing 2.3 million westerners.)

    Sure … come on over!

  • Bryson

    There is a huge logical fault the author obviously didn’t think of. They claim that most of the 25,000 refugees Canada would bring in have been prescreened, identified low risk by the UN, and have been in camps for up to four years. The biggest criticism of Trudeau’s plan is the timing of bringing them in by December 31. He tries to justify the short timeline by stressing urgency, saying these refugees desperately need to get to Canada right now, and suggesting they will not survive the winter. But why exactly will they not survive this winter if they have been in the camp for up to three winters before?

    My question is not if we take in 25,000 refugees (I don’t have a problem with the number), but when. There is no reason to take any larger security or health risks to rush this. The only reason to rush would be urgency. Urgency to this magnitude (25,000 in 5 weeks), according to this article, is not actually existent.

    Trudeau’s urgency on this is not humanitarian, it’s political.

  • Barbara Birban

    no financial assistance you are kidding me. the sponsored groups and individuals only have to be responsible for one year, i don’t know what you are thinking. After one year without education, and cannot speak the language who do you think is going to be paying to house, feed and clothe these refugees. you should give your head a shake and look at the future of this decision. To burden our already overtaxed country with more taxes is ridiculous. Our new generation cannot find work medical and dental, let alone housing and food.
    my thought on this is charity begins at home lets take care of our home first then if a group or individuals want to take on this responsibility let them and go out and have fundraisers to support them as long as needed.

  • Barbara Birban

    FYI just on CBC news the cost to the canadian government for bringing in 25,000 is 800 million plus for the first year and the total for the first 6 years is 1.2 billion, yes billion, wake up people this is the fact. yep and our deficit is a growing

  • eva ernerstern

    then right now let in the Christians who’ve been waiting @ the border for longer then the Syrians!!!

  • Dave Jones

    Total cost to Canadian tax payers is 1.2 billion over 6 years and 876 million for the first year

    • Ezra Pound

      And we will never see that back and if the Gov’t gives that estimate, you may as well double it!

  • Peggy MacGillivray

    This is so well stated. Thank you. It is wonderful to read something from someone that sees sanity. If Paris can still take in refugees, I think everyone can. Bless you, and thank you.

  • dax maxim

    Yes we have good security in place. yes there is always going to be a risk. but what does anything about a civil war in Syria have to do with use? what makes us their keeper? like the report says these people are safe in neighboring Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq. if they are safe then why the hell do i care or want them here? hand them all a shovel tell them to clean up some ruble and build a house there. I’m sick of having to listen to our government have to change our laws to suit them. I say leave them there. trust me they would NEVER do it for us.

  • Geno

    The writer does not want to live in our great country because others have different ideas of a problem. Maybe she/he should leave!!

    Let women, children and elders in. The young men should stay and fight for there country like men, instead of making our solders Put there lives on the line!!

  • Brett Irvine

    Well written article!!

  • R Furness

    As you watch the news cast of the thousands of legitimate Syrian refugees fleeing Syria through Europe and who are sitting in camps, I cant help but notice the many men hiding or covering there faces from cameras, I really hope these are not the people we here in North America are going to be settling or accepting. I hope the people in charge have noticed this obvious behavior. This is what worries me and really makes me question why? What are you hiding from? I have also noticed this with the 5 men that were just recently caught coming in through Honduras with fake passports the other day even smiling about it.

  • deryk houston

    Canadians should dig deep into their pockets and support these people. After all, we were quite happy to spend hundreds of millions on bombs that tore the heart out of these peoples communities. We supported sanctions on Iraq for example that resulted in the deaths of over two hundred and fifty thousand Iraq children.(UNICEF report 2002) One million Iraqis fled to Syria as a result of our actions which placed an enormous burden on Syria with a relatively small population. Social upheaval and breakdown there was no surprise.
    It was good to see that canada did not participate in the second gulf war but we have been bombing countries all around that area anyway.
    So ….it is time for us to pay the piper and look after these people. We helped break it we need to help fix it.

  • Peggy Margaret Knipe Gish

    excellent article, thank you so much for posting. You said ‘many’ refugees are sponsored, do you know if ALL need be or how that is worked out? If they aren’t sponsored, how are they helped? Thanks.

  • Staes

    Toula Drimonis, how many refugees are you willing to let in so you can sleep better? What do you say to the other 60 million displaced people from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan ? How many are you willing to take in From Africa? This is not part of the solution. It is part of the problem.
    This article reads like Swiss cheese.
    You have not done any home work in your article what so ever. You just want to be a knight of good morals look at my I will stick my head in the sand and take the easy path and point the finger at people who want to protect their loved once.
    TERRORISTS ARE INFILTRATING EUROPE BY POSING AS REFUGEES Not true.
    We now know for a fact that the holder of this false passport came into Europe via Greece as a refugee. This is based on his finger prints taken in Greece. Yes a lot of the terrorist are holders of Belgium and French passports but all are from Muslim countries and hold several passports and most of their first entry into Belgium or France was via a Refugee status. They have boosted via their social media that they have used the refugee stream to travel in and out of Europe. They use these false passport to do so.
    The number of refugees in the U.S. since 9/11 who have turned out to be terrorists? A big fat ZERO
    What about the Boston bombings?
    What about all the idled attempts ?
    The Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) checks all refugee claimants on arrival in Canada.
    How are you going to do this they have little or no paper work, and if they do what security checks are you going to do? Are you going to call Assad’s administration to check if the paper work is correct ? It is simply not possible.
    WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM, BUT WE’RE GETTING READY TO ACCEPT 25,000?
    So this is the number you are willing to accept ? Maybe even more wright. What do you say to the other 60 million displaced people from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan ? How many are you willing to take in From Africa ? If you look at it letting in e few refugees so you can sleep better this is not part of the solution. It is part of the problem.
    Where would Europe / the world be today If our Grandparent and Great-grandparents ran away from the Germans? How can you find a solution to the worlds real problems if you simply run away from the problem? We here in Europe are very grateful to the Canadians, Australians and Americans who came over to help us. Every year I go to listen to the last post to thank these people. Did innocent children, woman and men die because of bombs dropt by allied troops Yes. 250 meters from where I live a complete school was bombed and 250 children killed along with their teachers died. My Great-grandfather for the first world war and my Great grandfather for the second world war. They both came over from the UK to help us in France and Belgium. They did what was needed to make this world a better place none of them became terrorists they did not kill Germans 15 years later because Hitler did bad things.

  • A Ray Wolfe Munroe

    My issue is not so much the status of the syrian refuges…..it is the cost of feeding and housing with homeless and starving folks in our own country

  • Peggy Bachor

    Thank you for this Toula Drimonis. Thank you for say what I wish I was eloquent enough to say. I hope it will help to ease the minds of those who are afraid, or just too plain hateful to learn. I wish they would listen, but I fear no amount of truths will convince them to trust. We humans can be extremely evil creatures. Hate fuels hate and some peoples’ addiction to the big idiot box on the wall has them programed not to think for themselves. They distrust their own race “the human race” but they have no problem believing the lies being spread on social media. My conscience will not allow me to mistrust everyone by the actions of a few wish me harm. Call me stupid or call me naïve, I’d rather that than be wrong and allow them to suffer anymore than they already are. It was not so long ago that it was the irish or polish or german or Chinese or indian who were the ones they feared. Not all muslims are vicious any more than all pitbulls are or all irish, Chinese, german, Chinese, or indian THINK PEOPLE! PLEASE! If you are that worried put bars on your windows and by a bullet proof vest. I, personally refuse to live in fear. I found out the hard way that life is MUCH to fleeting to do that.

  • Matt

    After reading some of the comments and your arguement, these are not refugees that are coming into Canada unchecked, the amt. of screening involved is very in-depth. If each Refugee is being also screened by CSIS / national security, then i think ppl may need to question their own trust of the government Agencies that assist in governing & protecting the country with which we live. With respect to the Media, if your someone who trusts that every media source is correct you should research how much unchecked reports reach headline News before getting proven wrong after the fact. Look at the poor Canadian Sikh man who was posted on front page news in multiple countries as 1 of the Terrorists in Paris then it was found to actually be photoshopped. Look at that Sirian Passport that was found on the bomb sight immediately assumed to be a Sirian refugee infultrated bombers ID, then was stated to be found fake by other News Sources. When in Actuality it was the Passport of a man injured in the blast who had dropped it when being taken to hospital as they matched the passport with the person & that person was proven by security agencies NOT to be involved in the act whatsoever. When ppl & the media respond to the anger of an event like this, the media is going to fuel that fire as much as possible for the ratings it gets & of course the advertising is their benefit (not to put down every news Agency such as CBC) Since it’s much easier for them to just recant a comment later but what they usually do is relay it as an UPDATE to the ongoing investigation into blah blah….CNN is the worst of this, horrible actually. The war that the world is in revolves around Terror & the more fear that extremist’s can get promoted on main stream media the better. I feel that honestly there is more risk of a visitor to our country coming on vacation & then not returning due to wanting to commit an extremist act is significantly higher than a Highly & Severely screened Refugee process done by the highest security levels in our country. Don’t assume that because this had been made the highest priority by our PM to be done immediately that it means they’re skipping any of the screening process just to have it be done fast. (Btw this is being done in incremental stages not all 25,000 are coming in at once by the end of this yr) In any case, that fear isn’t & shouldn’t be what pevents us from helping those desperate families who need help, nor you are I can know what is like to lose/leave everything except what’s on your back cuz if you stayed you’d die or worse. But then it’s easy not to understand when we’ve been lucky enough to live in this great Country of ours that’s been built on not standing idle when coming to the assistance those in need. Or would you rather be like Trump & want to attempt build a wall around or country, honestly I’m more worried about that crazy idiot of a man getting into office then I’ll ever be about standing by our country helping 25,000 Sirian Refugees

    • Ezra Pound

      And a year out from your comment, the thoroughly vetted refugees have assaulted plenty of girls and have made schools unbearable. We live close to a refugee family and I can’t tell you home many times the Police have been called and the ambulance. Lights in and lights out, we figure he is beating his wife. Great way to spend our tax dollars on this cult of people

      • Matt

        Seems you’re coming to a judgement based on your neighbours actions alone, please submit using a proven & credible source that shows that those Serian Refugees are responsible for all the acts you’ve stated. There are unfortunately many of those Canadian born, whether christian or catholic, jewish or muslim, ppl in family’s of many faiths that suffer from domestic abuse & many are domestic Canadian citizens living off the taxpayer via unemployment etc. So to say that those brought into our country have done such things kinda screams of Trumps view that all immigrants that come into US “illegally” (or even Legal) are committing horrible acts of violence & are all attached to the human & drug trafficking trade etc. which is insane. If there is domestic violence in your neighborhood then maybe help promote that there are places for support in this country that were likely Not avail in theirs & maybe they’ll find the help they need through support & the law. In the end thats a poor example to give to represent a whole yr of immigration by refugees more specifically Serian refugees coming into our country.

  • Paul

    Read the article. It simplifies way too many things. This is a Syrian battle not ours. When we have so many poor and in need in Canada that should be helped and taken care of before we take these people in. And it seems like many of the people wanting to allow these immigrants, think there is a conspiracy by the governments and the media. I trust my media sources to give me a fairly wide spread view of the worlds issues. And I don’t see why a government would plant that so-called fake Syrian passport that they found with the terrorist that made his way to Paris with the refugees through Greece to Belgium then to Paris. I just don’t see the upside to taking the risk. What if ISIS scattered the people of Syria to start a refugee crisis so they could plant sleeper operatives with the Syrian refugees and get them into European countries and North America. ISIS is not stupid. The governments of Canada and the USA have stated that there is only so much info they can get on each refugee and in many cases it is not much. Basically if they never got on a watch list or a criminal record then they would be allowed in. If they behave for a period sleeper terrorists could totally get in to the country as a immigrant then perpetrate horrors on our countries. And why do we have a humanitarian mandate that demands we take these people in. Why not provide aid to them in parts of their country that we control. Or bring them and confine them to an area then send them back home when Syria is free of ISIS. And yes many of the refugees are young kids. But as we saw in Nigeria, Boko Haran used 8 and 10 year old girls as terrorists and used suicide vests.
    No one saw 9/11 coming. What if ISIS which has proven how powerful they are is planning the next 9/11 type attack? Is it worth the risk? Is it worth losing another 3500 American in another terrorist attack to let these refugees in? Why are we compelled to take them? Would they do the same if we had a war in Canada? The answer I believe is no. Not worth the risk.
    Sadly people suffer and people die It happens daily that tens of thousands of people die everyday due to famine, poverty and war in Africa. Should we bring them all here too. Why are Syrians more worthy than other immigrants?

  • Gerald Bouwknecht

    You say “the refugee determination process involves security checks by CSIS and the RCMP, fingerprinting and interviews. It is not likely that a person intending to commit a violent act would expose themselves to such detailed examinations.” I’m sorry but, fingerprinting and interviews do not reveal a persons intentions. If a person secretly plans on being a “Shahid” (Martyr) by doing a suicide bombing, it’s not going to show up in an interview or a fingerprint. Besides, If they are gonna blow themselves up anyway, I don’t think they are gonna care if they got fingerprinted. So stop telling us that being careful in in the way we screen is islamaphobic. Rather, it’s being responsible to Canadian citizens. Canadian citizens are the ones who should come first in Canada. How about we bomb and kill the ones who are throwing the refugees out of their country and give it back to the refugees?

  • Jim Baker

    Here’s a thought on the “refugee” situation women, children the disabled and elderly I can see , but all these abled bodied men??? Ok ya got run out of your home but just keep running ?? Go fight for your home for crying out loud !!! Get a gun , a pair of balls!! And fight for your home!! Where would this world be if everyone the Nazi’s chased out kept running??? Think about it , from what I’ve seen there seem to be a lot of young able men with smart phones and they dont look like theyre by no means starving!!! They need to grow a pair and fight for they’re shit!!!

  • Filiz

    Miss Drimonis, no your article didn’t put my fears at ease at all. I am sorry to say like most westerners you are clueless about their way of thinking their mentality. For you to say that they were radicalized in Europe some how should make us feel better. They are the children of North African Arab parents they grew up on a steady diet of western hatred.
    Could you please enlighten us to as why not a single oil rich Arab country won’t accept them? Same language, same religion. Don’t you think there is an agenda?
    There are no go zones in Europe you as a western woman could not walk there, they are demanding sharia law, is that what you want in Canada? I have news for you some of us came to this country to get away from this kind of fanaticism, to be free to give our children the freedoms that Canada affords us. I am not going to keep quite if you want to call me racist go ahead. I want to preserve our culture.
    They already arrested number of terrorist wanting to make their way into US, what more proof do you need? Get your head out of the sand.

  • Ken Trout

    Lots of wrong information in this article. There have been many terrorists captured in this country that may not have been refugees, true; instead they were students & visitors. The fact they were not refugees is a moot point because they just had easier ways into Canada, and they still made it in even with ALL the required documentation. The recent scourge of killing have upped the bar for the terrorists and stating that they won’t come in as refugees is like stating they won’t use computers to plan & communicate because they didn’t use them in the 70s either…. invent ALL the excuses you want but I ask 1 simple question… why can’t we keep them in Syria until the war is over? That’s where the men belong anyway, to fight for their own freedom.

  • stranger

    The only reason Canada turned the Jewish refugees away is because they were all high risk criminals such as rapists and murders, Hitler unfortunately had a demonic point to prove and was successful. Everywhere that boat went they were rejected and ended back to the nazis.

    You key point in your article is the truth behind the sayings, I think you should include the actual history and reasoning for your last comment about the boat. It could be misleading to your readers, you don’t want them jumping to conclusions

  • r_furness

    All I have to say about middle eastern & European refugees already here, is look at all the gang activity being caused by the already settled refugees here.
    Gun battles in the streets of Surrey, Richmond, Burnaby Abbotsford, The police are helpless to stop this as it is. I can only imagine what its like in other major city’s in Canada. No one in the immigrant communities out here in BC , including & especially there own family members, are helping to solve, turn in ,or volunteer information concerning this very dangerous already proven gang activity. Sure lets let more of that come here, our officials are doing such a good job vetting these family’s so far.

  • sickatheart

    I think we ought to be a little more sympathetic for those who lost loved-ones attending a concert in Paris. While I appreciate the beautifully written article by Toula and I Thank-you for sending it as it is full of compassion and love of our fellow-man.
    The only part I struggle with is the lack of compassion for the innocent people attending the concert, who didn’t know they were taking a risk of losing the rest of their lives by going there – and then afterward the grief of their loving relatives left to deal with the shock and loss. How huge is that? Perhaps we should ask them if they would be willing to take that risk again, now knowing that a risk ‘might’ exist. Or – Perhaps we should just focus on the odds and go for it. Or maybe ask them if they even know why the Muslim extremists are doing what they are doing? Why were their innocent relatives killed?
    All Muslims know the answer to that one and they’re not talking. They are just running. Taking in refugees or not, is not the question because we all want to help and be the safe haven that Canada is known to be. However, the thoughtful decision is not one to be scorned either though.
    How willing would you be to let your teenager go to a concert after 25000 Muslim refugees have been absorbed into our country? Would you want to wait awhile first?
    This isn’t just about fear- it is about the true risks involved to possibly a minority of future victims and the degree of our responsibility for them.
    It only took seven terrorists to kill 130 innocent concert-goers. Is it possible for another seven to be among 25000? Is it enough to be concerned about beforehand?

  • Gary Roberts

    How come no one wants to talk about how the Muslim culture defines a woman ? Property ? We belong to a rape free culture right ? This is standard in Muslim culture. Why isn’t this being addressed ?

  • Ross

    I find it laughable that people believe us closing our borders would in any way prevent IS from infiltrating. Seriously, you think that just because we close the borders to refugees then IS will not find a way into the country? I guess that since drugs are illegal it is impossible to find them, there’s no way that drugs are smuggled in because we’ve said that they aren’t allowed. Wake up. If we close our borders to refugees we in no way increase our safety. But we do turn our backs on thousands of people fleeing the very atrocities that you are so terrified of that you refuse to listen.

  • Don Racine

    Lady…you want us to denounce and BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY…..why should we take the word one voice…when the deaths of hundreds say differently. …facts presented by governments world wide says others wise…again I ask YOU WHY SHOULD WE LISTEN TO YOU

  • disqus_45rp1qSR5H

    So well said.

  • ORobbie

    hard to trust the government, look at Merkel, she is literally running Germany into the ground from what the country and its civillians have built it up to be at this point in time by putting immigration before the safety of the German people… Thousands of refugees who are mostly young males. They’re running people out of their houses. It’s barbaric.

  • disqus505

    Why are these 25,000 so important? There’s a lot of money and resources being spent today, and for years to come, on this group of people when many in Canada are in need. What about the deplorable conditions on native reserves? What about the homeless? What about our veterans? Some fear terrorism. I fear further drain on social resources already, clearly, spread too thin. How many of these 25,000 (+ reunified family members) will actually be productive, financially contributing members of society? Many will just be a burden, refusing to assimilate and living off the welfare state.

  • carol

    You know…I am tired of people comparing the Jews coming to America to the refugees today. It’s a totally different world now…there were no potential terrorists in the midst of the Jews. And how dare you dare consider people who are genuinely concerned to have no heart. Many of us in this country have worked ourselves to the bone for our families, our lives and our gov’t with little to show for it. And we have helped each other and those from other countries. There are many immigrants I would gladly welcome to my country including from the Middle-East and I’m not the only one
    . I’ve been there and have seen the Jews and Arabs actually living in relative peace together….it is possible for any of us to do that if we really want to. But you need to wake up to the fact that there are many Jihadists out there training to kill. Take a look a Birmingham England and see the effect that Islam has had on that city. Many are afraid to walk around and avoid the place. I think YOU need to wake up to the realities in our world today. And if you think peace is just going to happen one day simply because we wish it to then you are mistaken and I feel sad for you. I would love to see peace happen too – but it just won’t if it is only left up to us human beings. It will take a LOT more than that my dear……I don’t see anyone defending or all those Christians being killed by the Jihadists or wanting them to come to their country….do you?

  • jackie

    I’m concerned about possible terrorists. But
    ‘Refugees’ are openly declaring they are there to spread Islam. ‘One man can make 18 .. 22 babies with 5 wives. Are these girls here going to make babies? I don’t think so! ‘
    They plan to breed us out of our countries, declare Sharia Law and create a massive caliphate for Islam. THAT is scary.
    They sneer openly that they’ll use our welfare to live. And soon only Muslim culture will exist.
    I am not keen to live as a women with no rights under Sharia

  • Amanda

    But what I don’t understand is why are those that aren’t Christians are running. If things like what isls is doing start happening in Canada and US we wouldn’t run. We would stand and fight. We would make sure children and their mothers (by no means do I mean anything by that) would be made safe and those that could would fight back. That is something I still can’t understand about those that isls isn’t targeting. Untied Nations should be able to stop Assad from chemical warfare. But they aren’t. They stepped up when nuclear threats came from Iraq. Where are they now. How much would stop if Assad would step down? Another why aren’t Muslim countries taking in any refugees? Why does everything fall on the West? Those that are safe and in shelters still aren’t happy. Why? What gives them the right to rape and beat people up? What gives them the right to demand more money? Why aren’t they happy that they are being helped? Not all are like that but nobody can say I am wrong.

  • Judy

    I could support alot of this if it wasn’t for the FACT immigrants and refugees are demanding their customs and beliefs be LAW in our country. Wearing face coverings in legal proceedings????? go home. hummmmm

  • Helmut G.

    Islam is NOT a religion of peace, nor does Islam mean peace. Islam means submission.

    Most people are simply unaware that Islam is NOT just another religion but a totalitarian political cult-like ideology, which compels its followers into blind obedience, teaches intolerance, brutality and locks all Muslims and non-Muslims in a struggle deriving directly from the 7th century nomadic, predatory, Bedouin culture.

    Islam means “submission” to the will of Allah and the teachings as depicted in the Qur’an which include jihad – the genocidal slaughter of infidels by the sword, killing by beheading, intolerance of other religions, as well as forcing submission to Islam. The ultimate goal of jihad is the domination of Islam over the entire world.

    In Islam, one is considered “moderate” if one supports the goals of jihad, if not the tactics. Those who totally reject the violent teachings of Islam are considered apostates of Islam and as such, are condemned to death. Moderate Muslims are peaceful “in spite of Islam,” not because of it. The “religion of peace” is a concept the West is eager to embrace – all in the name of political correctness – refusing to believe that a major world religion poses such a devastating threat to humanity.

    This blog is designed to show you the dark side of Islam that the West does not want you to see. The Islam that Western media refuse to show you. The Islam that is slowly but surely changing the West. You may feel uncomfortable looking at this blog. You should. You will feel anger and disgust that our leaders do not understand Islam when it comes to the motives that drive our enemies to commit suicide for their ideology.

    Look at the photos, watch the videos, most of which come right out of the Muslim world. Understand that elements of Sharia law are creeping into our daily lives under the shelter of religious freedom. Listen and learn about the real Islam.

  • Helmut G.
  • cdn

    Im more concerned with the 25000 people that come from a culture where rape and murder are justifiable and legal, being brought here and being allowed to disperse across the country after a month. Will that be long enough to change their beliefs about womans rights to bring them up to par with ours in this country.

  • Susan Raby-Dunne

    One of the most celebrated cities in the world, City of Light, City of Love – all worthy descriptions of this beautiful city… unless you live a marginalized life in one of the ghettos on the outskirts of Paris. These people are neither accepted as French, or accepted in their ancestral countries. The solution is economic. I just hope it’s not too late.

  • Jerry Witkowicz

    I read the article and it does raise good points. I also read most of the comments and see both sides of the argument. I don’t know what the right answer is but do know that what is happening in the world today related to terror attacks, cannot be dismissed easily. Canada is the best country in the world and as citizens we want to preserve it that way for the next generations. I am an immigrant who came to Canada in 1966 and I embraced Canada as it was and I was very grateful to have been accepted to Canada as a landed immigrant. I embraced Canada for what it stood, a land of freedom and opportunity. I did not ask Canada for anything as I was already grateful for the opportunity to be here. I also did not set any expectations or demands for Canada to change its culture or ways to align with mine. It was then and it still is wonderful Country. I simply started to build my life and a career as a proud Canadian citizen and still feel this way today.

    This is a democratic country and both sides of the argument have the right to feel and express itself. Once we start forcing people to accept arguments of others, we start drifting away from democracy.

    One cannot ignore the fact that over the past decade or more, there has been considerable news about various terrorist organizations, their horrific acts, threats and destruction’s. All of these unfortunately are attached to the Muslim religion. I don’t understand this religion and the media presents all sorts of perspectives which fuel our emotions. During this past decade, the media was and still is our dominating source of information about Muslim religion, various conflicts, and events. If the media is distorting the facts, it would be extremely helpful if the leaders of our Muslim communities came out to help the citizens of Canada gain the right understanding. By comparison, look at Pope Francis, he travels the world to promote his message about Christianity and peace. Would it not be helpful if Muslim leaders did the same in Canada? I believe that this would lower the tensions which as the article states are heating up. And unless the Muslim leaders take the lead and reach out to the rest of Canada, I feel that the tensions will continue to overheat.

    • nightowl_8936

      It’s amazing how these muslims whine and cry if anyone so much as gives them a dirty look, but churches are burned down, bombs are exploded with body parts everywhere, and ISIS douses people with gasoline and burns them alive; and yet these muslims never utter so much as a peep of outrage over stuff like this, and the guilt-laden leftists and collectivist useful idiots of the western democracies provide cover for these muslims. Traitors and unCanadians, all of them.

  • nightowl_8936

    The writer of this blog post took us all for a magic carpet ride. Feigning outrage at the blood spilled in France was just a setup for a leftist cultural Marxist rant to try to guilt us and have us take in people who are fellows of the Khadr, and Shafia and Parvez families who happily sponge off the welfare provided by Canadians but give nothing to Canada but their dung. And now this writer wants us to take in 25000 more of these? To what purpose? For us to rediscover our humanity? What about them discovering theirs? When was the last time anyone saw a Muslim doing anything charitable for anyone who is outside their religion, and I use that term religion loosely. Better to say nihilistic cult that is at odds with everything the West stands for, democracy, gender equality, a free press, and rule of law.

    • Ezra Pound

      Bravo Sir!

  • Shelly Hazzard

    Thank you immensely for writing such a succinct article on this subject. I don’t want to be part of a country that turn people in need away either.

  • STAND FIGHT ACT! FAKE MIGRANTS

    TOULA YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT I VET THESE FAKE SYRIAN FAKE IMMIGRANT & FAKE IMMIGRANTS ALL DAY AND THEY ARE 98% SINGLE MILITARIZED MALES-THEY FAILED ISIS IS ISAL ISIL TALIBAN ALQAEDA (WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM ALL THE SAME) AND HAVE FLED AS THEY KILL THR OWN AS WELL SO BEFORE YOU SPEW ANOTHER WORD OF NON SENSE COME HERE AT OUR OFFICES AND ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE IM TOLD ALL DAY TO BE LAXED ON THEM AND ALLOW THEM IN OUR COUNTRY IVE SERVED AND TAKEN AN OATH TO PROTECT, YOU WANT TO FEEL DEMORALIZED? WALK IN MY SHOES FOR A DAY. IM ASKED TO BE MORE LENIENT THEY TELL ME TRUDEAU WANTS THEM IN HE IS BEING ARM TWISTED ISED AS A PUPPET BY THE ELITES (TO MUCH TO GET INTO THAT LETS JUST SAY LOOK UP NWO) HE WAS PUT IN PLACS BY TJE BILDERBURG GROUP VIA RBC FUNDING & A FEE OTHERS WITHIN THE 13 FAMILY ELITES AND OBAMA GROOMERS IN AUSTRIA 2015 MEETING LAST SUMMER (LOOK IT UP) WHY SO U THINK HE WENT TO DEVOS (AGAIN LOOK IT ALL UP) I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION WHEN THE MEDIA STARTS AVOIDING RADICAL MUSLIM MEN SHOOTING UP A BAR IN CALGARY OR THROWING THEM IN FRONT OF A BUS SUCH AS IN VANCOUVER OR TWO SEPARATE MURDERS IN TORONTO AND INSTEAD SPENDS HUGE AMOUNTS OF TIME & TAX MONEY DEPICTING WHOLE FAMILIES ONLY ARRIVING HERE SAFELY IN EVERY MEDIA PORTAL OR GATEWAY TAKING STAGED PHOTO OPPS AND INSTEAD THEY ARE ACTUALLY SINGLE MALES 18-35 WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?! ID DO MORE RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATING INTO THIS IF YOU CARE FOR YOUR SAFETY, FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY AND COUNTRYMEN, TRUST IN WHAT I SAY THEY WANT THEM HERE THEY NEED THEM HERE FOR THE COLLAPSE THEY NEED THEM HERE TO CREATE PROBLEMS, SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THE IMMEDIATE PLANNED PRACTICED SOLUTION, DESTROY AND CONQUER BAIT AND SWITCH SCENARIOS, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS WHOEVER READS THIS YOUVE BEEN WARNED! START PROTESTING ON THE STREETS, SPREAD THE WORD ON EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT GET IN THE POLITICIANS FACES IN EVERY LEVEL (THEY KNOW) AND ESPECIALLY OUT ON THE STREETS, MEDIA HAS ITS LIMITS, YOU MUST GET OUT ON THE STREETS CHALLENGE ALL OF THESE PRESSTATUTES IN THE MEDIA, FORCE THEM TO COVER THE REAL STORY THE REAL NEWS NOT JUST NEWS GATHER MAKE THEM TEPORT THE TRUTH, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO THE SAME AND LETS KEEP THEM OUT OF THIS COUNTRY IF YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT! CHALLENGE EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO SOMETHING EVERY DAY TO DEFEND OUR VALUES AND CULTURE YOU WILL LOSE WHAT YOU DONT DEFEND! MAKE SURE YOU BUY A PORTABLE GRAVITAL PULL WATER FILTRATION UNIT AND 1-2 YEARS SUPPLY OF BACK UP GMO FREE ORGANIC 25 YRS SHELF LIFE BACK UP FOOD & FOR GOD S SAKES, WHATEVER GOD YOU BELIEVE IN, STAY AWAY FROM ALL VACCINES! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AND GOD BLESS CANADA AND STOP BELIEVING THE MEDIA GO TO MICHAEL SAVAGE SHOW OR ALEX JONES INFOWARS OR PRISON PLANET TYPE OF PLACES FOR REAL NEWS THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA/ MSM IS DEAD!

  • STAND FIGHT ACT! FAKE MIGRANTS

    TOULA YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT I VET THESE FAKE SYRIAN FAKE MIGRANTS & FAKE IMMIGRANTS ALL DAY AND THEY ARE 98% SINGLE MILITARIZED MALES-THEY FAILED ISIS IS ISAL ISIL TALIBAN ALQAEDA (WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM THEY ARE ALL THE SAME) AND HAVE FLED AS THEY KILL THR OWN AS WELL OR THEY ARE SIMPLY JOINING THE ALREADY TRAINED TERRORIST CELLS HERE, SO BEFORE YOU SPEW ANOTHER WORD OF NONSENSE COME HERE AT OUR OFFICES AND ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE IM TOLD ALL DAY TO BE LAXED ON THEM AND ALLOW THEM IN OUR COUNTRY IVE SERVED AND TAKEN AN OATH TO PROTECT, YOU WANT TO FEEL DEMORALIZED? WALK IN MY SHOES FOR A DAY. IM ASKED TO BE MORE LENIENT THEY TELL ME TRUDEAU WANTS THEM IN HE IS BEING ARM TWISTED USED AS A PUPPET BY THE ELITES (TO MUCH TO GET INTO THAT LETS JUST SAY LOOK IT UP LOOK UP NWO LOOK UP FEMA CAMPS LOOK UP DEVIDE NORTH AMERICA INTO SECTIONS AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ZONES AND AREAS) HE WAS PUT IN PLACE BY THE BILDERBURG GROUP VIA RBC FUNDING & A FEW OTHERS WITHIN THE 13 FAMILY ELITES AND OBAMA GROOMERS IN AUSTRIA 2015 MEETING LAST SUMMER (LOOK IT UP-WE KNEW MONTHS IN ADVANCE TRUDEAU WAS GOING TO BE ELECTED) ALSO WHY DO YOU THINK HE WENT TO DEVOS MEETING RECENTLY ? (AGAIN LOOK IT ALL UP) I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION WHEN THE MEDIA STARTS AVOIDING RADICAL MUSLIM MEN AKA FAKE SYRIAN MIGRANT IMMIGRANTS SHOOTING UP A BAR IN CALGARY OR THROWING THEM IN FRONT OF A BUS SUCH AS IN VANCOUVER OR TWO SEPARATE MURDERS IN TORONTO AND INSTEAD SPENDS HUGE AMOUNTS OF TIME & TAX MONEY DEPICTING WHOLE FAMILIES ONLY ARRIVING HERE SAFELY IN EVERY MEDIA PORTAL OR GATEWAY SUCH AS TWITTER OR FACEBOOK ETC., TAKING STAGED PHOTO OPPS USING THE FEW WHOLE FAMILIES AND INSTEAD THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOSTLY SINGLE MALES 18-35 WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?! ID DO MORE RESEARCH AND INVESTIGATING INTO THIS IF YOU CARE FOR YOUR SAFETY, FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR FAMILY AND COUNTRYMEN, TRUST IN WHAT I SAY THEY WANT THEM HERE, THEY NEED THEM HERE, FOR THE COLLAPSE THEY NEED THEM HERE TO CREATE PROBLEMS, SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THE IMMEDIATE PLANNED PRACTICED SOLUTION, DESTROY AND CONQUER, BAIT AND SWITCH SCENARIOS, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS WHOEVER READS THIS YOUVE BEEN WARNED! START PROTESTING ON THE STREETS, SPREAD THE WORD ON EVERY SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT GET IN THE POLITICIANS FACES IN EVERY LEVEL (THEY ALL KNOW) AND ESPECIALLY OUT ON THE STREETS, MEDIA HAS ITS LIMITS, YOU MUST GET OUT ON THE STREETS & CHALLENGE ALL OF THESE PRESSTATUTES & JAWHORENALISTS IN THE MEDIA, FORCE THEM TO COVER THE REAL STORIES, THE REAL NEWS, NOT JUST NEWS GATHER MAKE THEM REPORT THE TRUTH, TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW & TO DO THE SAME AND LETS KEEP THEM OUT OF THIS COUNTRY IF YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT! CHALLENGE EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO DO SOMETHING EVERY DAY TO DEFEND OUR VALUES AND CULTURE YOU WILL LOSE WHAT YOU DONT DEFEND! NO BORDERS NO CULTURE NO COUNTRY! MAKE SURE YOU BUY A PORTABLE GRAVITAL PULL WATER FILTRATION UNIT AND 1-2 YEARS SUPPLY OF BACK UP GMO FREE ORGANIC 25 YRS SHELF LIFE BACK UP FOOD & FOR GOD S SAKES, WHATEVER GOD YOU BELIEVE IN, ALSO STAY AWAY FROM ALL VACCINES! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU AND GOD BLESS CANADA AND STOP BELIEVING THE MEDIA GO TO MICHAEL SAVAGE SHOW, OR ALEX JONES, INFOWARS, OR PRISON PLANET TYPE OF PLACES FOR REAL NEWS, REMEMBER, EVEN THOUGH AMERICAN NEWS AND SITES I PROVIDED, YOU MUST LOOK AT WHATS GOING ON TO THE SOUTH OF US AS WHATEVER HAPPENS IN THE USA HAPPENS HERE ALL THE TIME, RIGHT AFTERWARDS, DONT TRUST THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA/ MSM IS DEAD!

  • it’sthatbad

    Canada you have let the Trojan Horse into your country ! No matter what you may think or try to be civil……….you will not be welcomed for your efforts by Muslims. Their Koran says accept Allah, Islam or die. That is the end of the story. These people come here to colonize your country and take away your culture welcome to Sharia Law !
    I know I’m American and I have seen what they have accomplished in Michigan, TN, NY, TX and may more States. God Help you, now you have a Prime Minister just like Obama……….

  • Santana Norstrom

    I would rather live in a terrorist free country, and as long as people are willing to allow, and permit these Syrians into Canada, the more problems we are going to have, not to mention the substantial cost to the already burdened taxpayers of Canada.. It is time we all had our say on this matter and I am personally disgusted with a govt, such as ours that is so willing to compromise Canadian values and customs that are well instilled in our society, but not in the Syrians.? Nothing like throwing the tigers and lions at the public and hope for the best when it comes to who you let in and who we can trust. Good Luck fellow Canadians, I hope you don’t get your heads cut off, or raped by these savages who think it is fine to dominate women, and screw animals…. But we are to be tolerant…… This is exactly what ISIS wanted,,,, get more terrorists into the America,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,It is working into their plans while Trudeau sucks up for votes for the next election from all the Syrians he admits to the country. I would hope none of them are allowed to ever, ever, vote while living in our country. I used to be in love with this country, my country. NOT anymore,,, it is going to hell in a hurry. Thanks to all the government officials who helped push all these changes and get all these future voters here in Canada. How about send them all up to the arctic cause we don’t want any of them here, not one of them. They won’t be treated well by the people who are tired of the government wasting money and showing loyalty to other countries, any other country, but Canada,,, No loyalty to Canadians concerns at all. We have 600,000 elderly living in utter poverty in this country. We have another 30 thousand homeless people and many people living barely above the poverty line. When are our tax dollars going to be spent creating jobs for Canadians who are fast losing them in this economy? Why did we have a surplus when the Liberals took office, but a gigantic debt now? And he wants to take us further down in debt, by many more billions, or trillions no doubt yet..
    How much do we bend before we break? This is an irrational cold government with a leader more interested in taking selfies and being photographed than caring for Canada or Canadians interests. Nothing like making the people hate the new government worse than blowing all our cash, taking and robbing our pension funds, changing our ways of life,,,,,,all the while,sinking us further and further into debt that will be left for the next generations to pay off after the Liberals spending spree for 4 more years.All I can do now is plan my retirement out of Canada, to get away from the people coming here to hurt us, and take over our country. Not to mention now all the Canadians out of a place to live now because the Syríans are snapping up all the places that were available and of course, we get to pay for their costs on top of that. What a joke you are as a leader Liberals, you don’t give a damn about any of us.

  • Ann Brown

    Just wait Canada. You will regret taking these people in.

  • Rick Nash

    So why aren’t the oil rich muslim countries not taking in syrian refugees and why are our politicians are so keen to import them knowing the risks?And why aren’t the muslims going to their relative muslim countries why come here?And why we have to spend our hard earned tax money on them not for us ?For the laid offs. homeless, education ,health for our own kids future ask the oil rich countries to take care of them And the Media is not educating the non muslims of the world about this shame

  • MorristownMom

    So tell me, Toula, are you prepared to spend any part of your life living under Sharia law? The Liberals are bringing in voters and won’t the last laugh be on them – just how tolerant is a culture who forces its women to live under sheets? What do you think they will do to gay Canadians? In every nation where Islam has gotten a foothold, they have been quick to take over that society and force everyone else out, after all, we are the Infidels who deserve to be killed because we aren’t Muslim, correct?
    And under what circumstances is it ok to have tent cities of homeless families and veterans sleeping on TTC subway grates while refugees are living in hotels and ordering up room service and complaining about it on tv? Toula, what about winter coming for the veterans who are sleeping outside in downtown Toronto? How is that acceptable? The Syrian refugees have been given full healthcare, housing, new clothing and a living allowance, so to say that they are not given any government help is far from correct.
    How are people supposed to be vetted by the RCMP or CSIS when they have no passports and there is no access to any of their records? We truly do NOT know who these people are, although I do know that shepherds are not in great demand in Toronto or Vancouver at the moment.
    Wake up, Toula. You may have watched the 9/11 attacks on tv but I lived it. I went to far too many funerals in the months after the attacks. One friend’s husband had two services: at the first one they buried part of his ear, at the second part of his hand. So please don’t lecture me about something you truly know nothing about.
    Spend time in your ancestral Greece and ask the average citizen there how they feel about the Syrian influx and then please do get back to us.

  • Michelle

    You naive idiots!!! Muslims are taking over and you just welcome them in!!!!!! In 50 years when they are the majority and instate sharia law, I’m glad I’ll be dead.

    • Pygormus

      We’ll all be glad.

      • Ezra Pound

        You go pretty low don’t you! Sounds about right, do you support Female Genitalia Mutilation, how about honor killings, or gang raping girls?

        Do you support pedophilia ? If i had to guess….

        • Pygormus

          Interesting choice of pseudonym, another fascist POS. As for your infantile and moronic comment, those practices are cultural and have nothing to do with Islam. You can attempt to insult me; go ahead if it makes you feel good. Do you think I give a rat’s ass?

  • Keith

    The people from Westboro Baptist Church are idiots and so are those who are part of radical Islam. The problem for westerners is that we refuse to differentiate between radicals and just believers. We can however tell the difference between crazy Christians and regular ones. This is why we feel free if not compelled to vilify Westboro.
    As far as people who murder daughters who become westernized (and I include this comment because of something I read below) that is culture and not religion, though I will acknowledge the fact that female sexuality is seen as something that needs to be controlled by men in Islam as it was in some segments of the Christian faith. At one time all of the Christian faith.

  • Lusael Merlin

    Islam is different from other religions. If more people act like Jesus or Moses the world gets better. Thank the lord most Muslims don’t take their religion seriously. Isis Borak Haram and thousands of other Islamists do and act like Mohammmed who ruled by terror and grew rich with war bounty.

  • Leon Brierley

    I am labelled an Islamophobe and it does not really bother me my main concern is what are we getting out of this the majority can not even read or write in their own language and have no skills if they are not willing or able to work they should not be allowed that will help as well they need to be assigned a dollar value for the cost of processing and need to pay back that amount with interest no free rides. If that can not be successfully implemented in short time than we need better borders and charge people through the nose to travel hear from those locations that are problematic

    • Pygormus

      And you can’t write your own language either.

      • Ezra Pound

        But at least he is paying taxes as oppose to sucking on the Gov’t teat at the detriment of the tax payer. We have debt in this country no? Why are we dedicating a billion dollars to basically put people on welfare?

        You failed economics didn’t you?

        • Pygormus

          (1) How do you know he’s paying taxes? Pure assumption on your part. (2) No, I didn’t fail economics but I’m pretty sure you would.

  • Leon Brierley

    All I care about is the cost to the host country they should be meticulously processed and the cost of each migrant should be treated as a loan I.e it cost the government ex amount of dollars to bring your ass here now you pay back that amount by getting a job and giving us the cost of bringing you here. after they have payed what they owe. they can go about there business I have nothing against immigration. Canada has had great immigrants but the north African and hard-up Syrians are a different kind with a high illiteracy rate they can be a potential burdon so for the ones like that allow them a chance to prove themselves with cold hard currency

  • Rick Nash

    Its Time the People of North America & Canada specially with our Mushi Obama and Justin wake up before its too late.are the rest of us blind or deaf or so ignorants not to see whats happening around the world.Its planned islamic invasion you stupid people.why don’t the oil rich islamic states take any single muslim refugee cause they want them to go to the western countries and convert the rest of us.introduce shariya law and shove down our throat the barbaric Islamic culture Rapping of women in Germany ,Sweden,Norway by the muslim refugees and everywhere is another proof that Islam thinks women are not equal and were born just for sex and serve men.now in some muslim majority towns in US and Canada are using loud speakers to spread the muslim faith so loud 6 times a day you cannot concentrate on anything Fridays they take over any street under pretence of prayers just to show their power…wake up people before its too late Trump is not against moderate muslims or legal emigrants its the Fanatic jihadi muslims and illegal emigrants he’s worried with china on trade While our Justin the Mushi is cleaning the asses of muslim terror groups

  • Robert Moore

    For me, the problem is simply that Islam is a dangerous and ugly religion that, in concert with its own teachings, reacts violently to opinions that differ from its own. To Islam, their view is right, and everything else is wrong, and any sort of compromise and tolerance of opposing views are weaknesses, ad explicitly so! Hardly to be wondered at when you consider the violent and disgusting creature with whom this religion started. Islam demands a tolerance of itself that it in no way reciprocates, and if its demands are not met, its adherents react with violence, as prescribed. You can watch the practicalities of this religion, and of its innate inability to tolerate other beliefs, in operation in the countries where it is practiced. Islam’s views and precepts, particularly in its most fervent adherents (of which there are far too many), are utterly at odds with the notions of freedom and even minimally acceptable behavior in our own societies. Simply put, it is a religion that is intolerable, even by the tolerant. I have numbered among my acquaintances Muslims who are pleasant, even a delight, to know, but this is really a comment on their lack of conviction, for they tend to label themselves (I suggest) “Muslim” only because they were born into it. Reasonable people cannot live comfortably beside this religion, and our systematically importing significant numbers of Muslims into our society is utter madness. Here Christian views of tolerance, “turn the other cheek”, and “love your neighbor” (or the oft misquoted “love thine enemy”) are about as dangerous a modus operandi as possible, because we are offering that tolerance to those for whom it is foreign, and in fact, a weakness.

  • it’sthatbad

    Has anybody in America ever and I mean ever seen a group of Muslims stand up and say “We condemn ISIS, and the beheadings, killing Christians, raping children, and more” ?
    NO YOU HAVE NOT…….YOU NEVER WILL THEY ALL READ THE SAME FILTHY KORAN AND PRACTICE THE TEACHINGS THERE IN…………………NOT ONE IMAN WOULD EVER STAND UP AND SAY CHRISTIANS ARE GOOD…………………….end of story !!

  • disqus_Dq8JNOWLd4

    Your beliefs are dangerous to Canada, my country.

    Yes, we are a nation that comes to the aid of others. But we also are wise enough to know when our actions put our entire way of life at risk.

    Nobody is questioning whether the people of Syria are right to flee their country.

    What is being questioned is the wisdom of bringing into Canada thousands of people without proper screening – thousands of people who have been raised in a culture committed to hating the west and disrespecting women in every way possible.

    A culture where people believe in Muslim Sharia religious law over the law of Canada – yes, there have been surveys of Muslim immigrants to Canada and the vast majority want to have Sharia law in Canada as the presiding law of the land. Scary, huh?

    Do you know what Sharia law calls for? The coverage of all adult women from head to toe. The lawful torture and killing of men and women for adultery. The lawful killing of gays. The lawful committal of so-called “honor” killings against women who don’t do what their husbands or fathers or brothers tell them to do.

    Yet, we want to bring in more people who come from a culture of Sharia law. A backward culture where religious leaders make daily calls for the extermination of the west and the infidels who populate it. A culture where religious fanaticism rules.

    And please don’t tell me that these people are coming here to flee religious fanaticism and embrace a new country and new values and a new western culture. Why? You just have to look at the UK, which let in masses of Muslims over the past 20 years.

    They were not assimilated, had no interest in it. Within 10 years, they had enough voting power to get Muslims elected to high office and now – and now – Sharia Law is in practice in many boroughs across the UK.

    That’s right, religious Sharia Law is effectively the law of the land for Muslims in the country that fought so hard and for so long to break from religious rule, the country that signed the Magna Carta to begin the journey to a secular society where justice is the will of the people, not fanatical religious leaders.

    You want that here? Just keep supporting the open-door policy we have for Muslims.

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  • Elelei Guhring

    Our children (who need free university education and free health care), the poor (who need affordable housing, jobs, and often re-education), and the elderly (who need health care and community support and affordable housing with care), ARE ALL SUFFERING from this. Where is the funding for them? In my community there are 3000 people waiting for housing, and yet not a single muslim refugee is homeless, they all have welfare and housing, provided by the state if unable to do so by their own means. Why? WHY!? Everyone else is going to see higher taxes to pay for the welfare and health care services that hundreds of thousands of refugees will cost us. But let us look at some statistics. In the UK for example, muslims who have lived there over the last 25 years show an interesting employment pattern: 75% of muslim women, in that time, have never held a job. 50% of muslims men, in that time, have never held a job. Among those muslims who have worked, it has been infrequent, and their unemployment rate is nearly 4 times the national average. It is widely seen that muslims resort to crime, such as prostituting children and selling drugs (often selling drugs to the parents of children they wish to prostitute) in order to earn. We are importing this problem and if we fail to see that there is a sizable group within islam who do not work, who do not obey laws, and who build a nation within a nation, we are setting ourselves up for a Northern Ireland conflict within Canada.

  • joe the grinder

    How many Syrians do you have living in your home Toula-you misguided Liberal puppet? )- oh, ok that’s what I figured. Put blame on everyone else and make yourself out as some kind of humanist hero in order to assuage your indoctrinated guilt. Then haughtily preach down to us minions some feel-good fuzzy, amorphous ideology that you have espoused as a result of your inclusivity.

  • QCpourTrump

    We should accept only christian refugees, not muslims with their rape culture and institutional racism and sexism.

  • paul martin

    toula drimonis, you are a hopeless mindless suicidal liberal,people like you are why so many people are being killed,and you stupidly want to bring them in by enormous numbers,you moron then when they kill you everyone will see what morons people like you are!!!

  • jerrisanchez

    Why would Canadians want them…why doesn’t Trudeau protest around the world against honor killings, mutialiation of women’s genitalia, women forced to wear the burka, can’t drive cars, children who are kidnapped as sex slaves, homosexuals being thrown off of buildings, christians being beheaded, muslims being beheaded, bombs strapped on young children to blow up mosques/churches/outdoor gathering spots, 9/11, killings all across the globe by Radical Islamist Terrorists…..No…. he invites them to Canada. God help ya’ll.

  • violeman

    I think it is sad when anyone gets shot down or killed.
    Canada can not provide jobs or income for all these refugees..
    It really makes me sad when local citizens without jobs but then when a refugee comes in they have a Job, House & credibility to start up a business while the rest of us start to suffer.
    Why not End the crazy War, Help rebuild their Country then they too can go home and get their lives in order…
    We are not War torn by any means but most of us never agreed to bombing their Countries in the first place..
    Any person that loses their family members to a Country bombing and shooting their loved ones, will become hostile and fight back..
    So why did this happen in the first place?
    Like Trump said (We had no business being over there in the first place)..
    And I agree…
    We do not have enough jobs going around 4 us so why should they have jobs over here without being a citizen?
    Let’s start rebuilding their Countries once again,
    & Quit blaming people like Trump because he wasn’t the person that created this anger from all of them, He just wants to rebuild while protecting our Countries here over in America / Canada!!
    It is funny how quick people forget why we are in this mess…
    Thanks..

  • James Yuliya

    Hey!!! Dummy who wrote this article, you forgot to mention the GSNG RAOES , murders, violent crimes, trucks being stopped in transit BY REFUGEES ALL ACROSS EUROPE!! 144000 crimes committed by migrants in the first 6 months in GERMANY ALONE in 2016… An average 700% increase in rapes across Sweden , amongst many other HORRIFIC statistics !! You , and the rest of the Liberal idiots are in COMPLETE denial about the crimes committed by the refugees in Europe, as well as the problems they are causing in Canada that isn’t being reported by the MSM… Yes, you have facts, but TEY REPORTING ALL THE FACTS!! WANTING TO OROTECT YOUR FAMILY, CITY, NEIGHBOURS from this onslaught that the MSM and media ppl as yourself blatantly deny and won’t present all the facts will undoubtedly take us down the same path as Europe. Or are you going to deny that Germany, UK, Belgium, Sweden to name a few don’t have REAL issues that NEED to be addressed when it comes to the migrant crisis??

  • James Yuliya

    Meant to say gang rapes, not gsng raoes..

  • Henry S

    Ignorance and nativity can result in more danger, unintentionally, than any intentional act.

    Like the guy on the highway going 50 mph in the fast lane where the speed limit is 70mph.

    He just drives on without the realization of the turmoil and havoc being created around him due to his ignorance and naive superiority of his right to be there going 50 in the fast lane.

    • Ezra Pound

      It’s amazing how they are suppose to be soooo holy but yet are the first waiting for the handout. No question, a huge drain on our social services

  • Henry S

    I call the middle East the toilet of the world, and now the toilet of the world is here!

  • Temis K

    Oh Ms. Toula … you are no doubt GREEK…you jackass,,,look what they’ve done to Greece … there is NO MORE Greece…yeah, we know, you’re so “”ANEPTIGMENI””,,, you’re pathetic,,, idiots/govts. like you are and will be paying the price dearly in due time. ILITHIA @!!!!!!!!

  • Wolfreign Valenford

    HAHAHAHHAHA and here i am. working my ass off to get off my shitty country of islamic country to either the west or europe to start a new life, have a new name.. and they beat me to it BY WALKING . WALTZ IN TH EBORDERS NOBODY GIVES A SHIT XDD. DO YOU KNOW HOW UNFAIR THIS IS XDDDD im crying right now cuz.. its just not fair. you know? fuck you guys. seriously i wanted to run away from muslims. and you guys just ADD IN A WHOOPING OF XD 40k in your community. I LIVE NEXT TO A MOSQUE MY ENTIRE LIFE N IT IS DRIVING ME INSANE. IF .. fuck this shit.. its just unfair. thats all i wanna say.

  • AD

    Canadians be careful.
    Europe has open the flood gates. Now they sit with a problem they cannot wish away.

  • mineta

    Hahaha… So funny ..all this writting… About terror and anguish..lol…dont worry we wont bomb your old dracula parliament… We will just hack ur beers…

  • Mallrick

    this articles has so many lies…for one the screening..we are 3 team and our team is only 8…the screening is done very quickly and half the time we get almost no information out of it..90% dont speak english..the interview are 1 to 5 minute! we provide them license even tho only 1% of them have entered a car already…we also give them house and apartement while we still have citizen that are homeless..now our highway are a mess with people driving at 40 km/h on the left line and change line without looking! they are provided gouvernement job while they dont speak either english or french//while we have a 7 to 12% of our citizens without a job…the polls are rigged ( 30% of voters are refugees ) if the survey were not hidden we would have a more realistic result! now my kid is confuse by all those burka ( “confuse” is not the right word and i cant blame him ) also i cant be the only one that get those isis sticker on my windshield once a month if not more